Mott1 wrote:Is it me, Ian, or is Dawn actually pretty likeable in s7 of Buffy? Riley seemed to work in favour of Buffy and Spike's development as much as anything, but Marc Blucas acted well when required. S7 was all about redemption after everyone screwed up so badly in s6 so whilst Spike seems to have a bit too much material - and seemingly different personality from episode to episode - it works in the end, and Marsters nails pretty much every scene he's in. He did the same in Torchwood, a shame he didn't stay for Children Of Earth.
James Marsters is an amazing actor (great guy too. Lucky enough to meet him and he was probably the nicest guest alongside Ingrid Oliver, and Jacqueline Pearce. Peter Purves was also a great guy too. The thing about those 4 was that they weren't just polite. They really took their time to speak to you and asked you about your day.)
His performance ALWAYS made Spike enjoyable to watch whether he was a pansy, or a cool guy we all wanted to be.
However I respectfully disagree with Ian that they couldn't have done more with S4 Spike.
Again look at Crowley from Supernatural. Anybody here watch Supernatural? I seem to be the only one that ever mentions it on this board. Its official fandom are rabid SJWs like Claudia Boleyn (basically because it stars two men and they want to tear it down. That literally is the only reason they latched onto it.)
Obviously that puts a lot of people off. Also its definitely gone on too long, but there is a lot of excellent stuff in there. The first 5 seasons of Supernatural have to be included among the best fantasy series of all time IMO.
Anyway Crowley is basically season 4 Spike, the snarky, self serving Demon who only works with the heroes to save his own skin and flips between being their ally and enemy.
Spike in the season 2 finale reminds me a lot of Crowley in season 5 of Supernatural.
This article I think sums it up you should take time to read it. I didn't write this by the way in case you think this is self promotion. You all know my blog and this isn't it anyway.
Where Supernatural Went Right With Fergus (Crowley) Where Buffy Went Wrong With William (Spike)
Having said that thought since I do get quite negative with S6 and 7 of Buffy for once I'll list the things I love about them.
Tara getting more attention in S6. Very likable character, and a great actress (who is very underused) I liked her friendship with Buffy, and her death was shocking and heartbreaking.
Dark Willow, though controversial I thought was an excellent villain. Lets be honest Willow has always been a bit unstable. She nearly cursed Oz, tried to kill herself when he cheated on her, her Vampire self was one of the most evil and twisted Vampires, on a par with the likes of Angelus, Darla and Spike.
Also her torture and murder of Warren is a classic horror death on a par with Rhodes death in Day of the Dead (in fact I think it might surpass it.)
The Turok Han are a brilliant idea and really well realised too.
Nathan Fillion is a wonderful actor and its great to see him play one of the vilest villains in the entire show.
Unlike a lot of people I actually liked the resolution to the series as a whole. I didn't like it that Spike killed the uber Vampires as ultimately its Buffy's show, so its kind of like Tennant in New Who.
Still it was good the way Spike went from the lowest of the low, a would be rapist, to an ensouled champion, also having Buffy break the rules of the slayer line was the perfect end to the character. That's what she always did and now she's prevented any other young girl from going through it alone, and made the world a safer place. It was a perfect end to the character IMO.