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Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations
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2 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 18th July 2019, 11:57 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
I'm curious enough to give them a read. See if maybe he adds on or improves on Resurrection and Revelation.
I'll probably get them at some point but at the moment money is a bit too tight to mention for me.
I'll probably get them at some point but at the moment money is a bit too tight to mention for me.
3 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 18th July 2019, 11:58 pm
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Tanmann wrote:I'm curious enough to give them a read. See if maybe he adds on or improves on Resurrection and Revelation.
I'll probably get them at some point but at the moment money is a bit too tight to mention for me.
Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the original TV stories?
4 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 12:05 am
Tanmann
Dick Tater
I thought Resurrection was a rather nasty violent, excessive mess that nonetheless had a few gem moments buried in there.
Revelation I thought was mostly really good. It had bits of skewed morality (specifically Saward's skewed ideas of justice) but for the most part the good stuff really outshines the flaws. Though it did leave me with some nagging questions of why Tranquil Repose were willing to work with Davros given human history with the Daleks. Maybe the upcoming book might provide some answers.
Revelation I thought was mostly really good. It had bits of skewed morality (specifically Saward's skewed ideas of justice) but for the most part the good stuff really outshines the flaws. Though it did leave me with some nagging questions of why Tranquil Repose were willing to work with Davros given human history with the Daleks. Maybe the upcoming book might provide some answers.
5 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 12:20 am
Tanmann
Dick Tater
Oh sod it.
Resurrection's only £9.99 on Amazon.
I'll order it now.
Resurrection's only £9.99 on Amazon.
I'll order it now.
6 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 1:15 am
stengos
Tanmann wrote: ... at the moment money is a bit too tight to mention for me.
simply red????
7 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 7:43 am
Tanmann
Dick Tater
Kind of.
Though I struggle to imagine Mick Hucknall ever being short of money these days.
Though I struggle to imagine Mick Hucknall ever being short of money these days.
8 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 1:37 pm
Zarius
I read a spoiler about Tegan and I think Eric's been watching Whoflix's fanedits.
9 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:00 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
Well my copy's just arrived.
It's a lot smaller than I expected.
It's a lot smaller than I expected.
10 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:17 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
Tanmann wrote:It's a lot smaller than I expected.
Funny, my ex said that to me once.
11 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:32 pm
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Commander Maxil Gale wrote:Tanmann wrote:It's a lot smaller than I expected.
Funny, my ex said that to me once.
Understandable.
12 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:50 pm
stengos
Tanmann wrote:Well my copy's just arrived.
It's a lot smaller than I expected.
May i ask how many pages?
I would be intrested to hear what you think of it.
I liked his "Twin Dilema" novelisation but was dissapointed by "The Visitation".
13 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:55 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
It's 189 pages, and the hardback fits in my coat pocket.
I've got another book to finish first, but I should be done with that one within a day. Then I can probably get through Resurrection quickly and give you my verdict.
I've got another book to finish first, but I should be done with that one within a day. Then I can probably get through Resurrection quickly and give you my verdict.
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14 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:56 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
Have you read any of it yet?
15 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 6:57 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
Not yet. I'll probably start tomorrow.
16 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 19th July 2019, 7:00 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
Let us know what it's like when you do. I agree with Stengos. His Visitation novel was basically a "he said, she said" affair. No real insights into the character or anything like that. I just hope the Resurrection novel is written in the style of the Twin Dilemma and Attack of the Cybermen novels.
17 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 2:41 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
The novel has been reviewed by one person on Amazon and he gave it 1 star...
"Essentially a 208 page Mickey take at the expense of Doctor Who fans, arch, humourless and jaundiced, the writers boredom drips off every page."
"Essentially a 208 page Mickey take at the expense of Doctor Who fans, arch, humourless and jaundiced, the writers boredom drips off every page."
19 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 5:32 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
He sounds like a moody twat whoever he is.
20 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 5:52 pm
Doctor7
I read Eric saward was not a big fan of JNT casting Colin.
21 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 5:53 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
Commander Maxil Gale wrote:He sounds like a moody twat whoever he is.
Well certainly sounds like a fan who has not forgiven Saward (either for the violent direction he took the show in the 80's, or for doing the dirty on JNT and Colin as he did- as Doctor7 pointed out), and is committed to the narrative that New Who owes its success to being so insufferably 'fun' and therefore Saward's writing represents everything antithetically bleak and humourless that killed the old show's appeal.
Now I don't disagree that Saward's writing was a detriment to the show and its hero (or at least a contributing part of it), but the reviewer sounds like the kind of fan who is utterly cultish and fanatical about the idea of what ensured New Who's success, and intolerant of any other way of doing the show.
22 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 6:04 pm
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Tanmann wrote:It wasn't me....
Yeah, the lack of a Warriors Of The Deep rant confirmed it...
23 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 6:04 pm
Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master
The git gave RTD's Rose novelisation 5 stars! Unbelievable.
24 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 6:14 pm
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Commander Maxil Gale wrote:The git gave RTD's Rose novelisation 5 stars! Unbelievable.
Just read it, the mind truly boggles...
25 Re: Eric Saward's Dalek Novelisations 21st July 2019, 6:19 pm
Tanmann
Dick Tater
I was actually going to write my own novelization of Day of the Doctor, long before Moffat's official version came out, and I posted a draft of chapter one on a particular fanfic site.
However it got rather unfavourable feedback because I think the readers felt the way I described Clara's opening motorbike journey from school to the Tardis, with her getting a bit wet from the vibration of her motorbike seat was a tad inappropriate.
However it got rather unfavourable feedback because I think the readers felt the way I described Clara's opening motorbike journey from school to the Tardis, with her getting a bit wet from the vibration of her motorbike seat was a tad inappropriate.
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