Series 11

The opinions and support of the American fanbase are meaningless. They offer no value or intellectual insight other than SJW crap.

You are being far too hard on Americans.

They dumped this shit long before we did. Its viewers are down at 1800. That's so pitifully low it almost doesn't even register.

Considering it got 10 plus million for the classic era and several million for Matt Smith, that's even more pitiful.

I've also found the American fans are more willing to call this shit out. Look at Claudia Boleyn, Mr Tardis etc compared to Bowlestrek.

I hate this crap about how if the Americans get hold of it they would ruin it. Hello! They could hardly do worse than the British for the past 20 years!

Thank you! Add to that, most Americans who grew up with Classic Who had to really WANT to watch it. It was often hard to find PBS stations air it regularly at the same time (or be on the same serial from one station to the next). I hated that vacations meant missing Doctor Who. Also, depending on where you lived, Whovian were isolated fans. Finally, it was hard enough to get access to the TV show itself back then, novels and mechanise were non-existent.

But sure, we know nothing of dedication to this production. *eyeroll*

Note: I’m not saying these vloggers grew up with Classic Who. I’m just saying some of us Americans did.

This american YT Reactor is going to be covering classic DW serials on his channel this December. First four Doctors (The Daleks, Tomb of the Cybermen, Terror of the Autons, and Genesis of the Daleks)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4cBS-7gNuZXBUe6Qs18gQ/videos

Indeed. New Who has been the ultimate classic fan nightmare of an American version of Who. Made by the British. The irony is, your modern American TV series makers - you know, the kind who made excellent shows like Elementary, Person of Interest, Fringe etc - could almost certainly do a better, more faithful, job of making the show than the British hacks have for the last 13 years.

That’s not saying much. My dog could write a better series 11, if only because she watches Classic Who with me.

Oh I know, I'm just saying I find those fans who still get hysterical at the notion of an American Who very bizarre. It was understandable back in the 80s - when US TV was largely still cartoony drivel and Who was still itself - but after 13 years of New Who, which resembles nothing so much as what an 80s American version of Who might welll have been like - it's quite comical.

iank wrote:Oh I know, I'm just saying I find those fans who still get hysterical at the notion of an American Who very bizarre. It was understandable back in the 80s - when US TV was largely still cartoony drivel and Who was still itself - but after 13 years of New Who, which resembles nothing so much as what an 80s American version of Who might welll have been like - it's quite comical.

The real cream of British television and film production live and work in America. In effect, the high quality of some American product is entirely due to the work of British professionals. Meanwhile the British industry since Blair has turned into government handouts, work for the dole for the luvvies, same as in Australia and Canada. And as a consequence we get Stalinist dross from those sources.

I don't think Americans could do a better job, but I also don't think they could do a worse job either. However, we have to accept this SJW bullshit started in the US, so they should take part of the blame for bringing down DW. Also, I firmly believe American culture perpetuated by our media has resulted in the death of intellectualism in the UK, allowing for such shit to be viewed as acceptable.

I also think a lot of the whole anti racism narrative is also because of people wanting to look cool by being anti Trump. Again, another problem caused by America.

iank wrote:Oh I know, I'm just saying I find those fans who still get hysterical at the notion of an American Who very bizarre. It was understandable back in the 80s - when US TV was largely still cartoony drivel and Who was still itself - but after 13 years of New Who, which resembles nothing so much as what an 80s American version of Who might welll have been like - it's quite comical.

Indeed I also think its very precious of the Brits to not think the Americans should ever get a hold of their iconic hero. Imagine if the Americans had felt the same way. We'd never have got the Christopher Nolan Batman movies.

IMO the Americans couldn't possibly top New Who. I mean what is there left to wreck?

Exactly. The show and its central character are unrecognisable from the classic series now.

My point is the BBC nomenklatura made a show to pander to the worst elements in American consumer society- and have lost them too.

MISSY FANS don't like the female spinoff. It's over.

Genkimonk wrote:I don't think Americans could do a better job, but I also don't think they could do a worse job either. However, we have to accept this SJW bullshit started in the US, so they should take part of the blame for bringing down DW. Also, I firmly believe American culture perpetuated by our media has resulted in the death of intellectualism in the UK, allowing for such shit to be viewed as acceptable.  

I also think a lot of the whole anti racism narrative is also because of people wanting to look cool by being anti Trump. Again, another problem caused by America.

Trump racism is a typical false narrative of the lapdog media. He's a civic nationalist for christ's sake. Opposite of any form of racist or racial supremacist. "Bleed red white and blue" and so on.

Doctor Who needs to be a lot more professional than this. If you have outright communists like Malcolm Hulke and socialist anti-christian buddhist LARPers like Barry Letts, but still have awesome storytelling and strong messages in stories, but NO horrible preaching or attacks on the audience, you have success.

The current show is very angry, very hostile to its mainstream viewers. There is a nastiness on display that no one really likes, even the mentally ill conformists it's apparently aimed at.

"Somebody cannot be this blatantly stupid"

YouTuber rips apart MrTARDISFucker's latest video:

Commander Maxil wrote:"Somebody cannot be this blatantly stupid"

YouTuber rips apart MrTARDISFucker's latest video:

Complains that people complaining probably know very little of the show, then proceeds to call the main character "Doctor Who".

Fucking cunts.

TheTimeTraveller wrote:

Genkimonk wrote:I don't think Americans could do a better job, but I also don't think they could do a worse job either. However, we have to accept this SJW bullshit started in the US, so they should take part of the blame for bringing down DW. Also, I firmly believe American culture perpetuated by our media has resulted in the death of intellectualism in the UK, allowing for such shit to be viewed as acceptable.  

I also think a lot of the whole anti racism narrative is also because of people wanting to look cool by being anti Trump. Again, another problem caused by America.

Trump racism is a typical false narrative of the lapdog media. He's a civic nationalist for christ's sake. Opposite of any form of racist or racial supremacist. "Bleed red white and blue" and so on.

Doctor Who needs to be a lot more professional than this. If you have outright communists like Malcolm Hulke and socialist anti-christian buddhist LARPers like Barry Letts, but still have awesome storytelling and strong messages in stories, but NO horrible preaching or attacks on the audience, you have success.

The current show is very angry, very hostile to its mainstream viewers. There is a nastiness on display that no one really likes, even the mentally ill conformists it's apparently aimed at.

Agreed Trump isn't a racist. I have many problems with him. He's a flip flopper, and is too easily bullied by the people he was elected to fight against.

I liked the 2016 Trump. He promised to improve relations with Russia, not interfere in the Middle East, and focus on America.

He also promised to fight the medias censorship, help Julian Assange, and fight for American identity, which would serve as a good example to other countries around the world like the UK and Sweden.

Of course I always had my disagreements with him about things like the NHS and the Welfare state, but again those are American issues and since I don't live there its not my concern. From a global point of view he was the best person for the job between him and his war mongering psychopathic rival, Hillary.

However sadly rather than drain his swamp he's fucking swam in it! His attacks on Syria the sanctions he's placed on other countries and the fact that he's turned his back on Wikileaks and allowed himself to be manipulated. I cringed so badly when he went on about "Animal Assad" and "these are beautiful babies".

Then there is his dick measuring contest with North Korea. It remains to be seen if he will break his promises to a huge extent and actually provoke a serious conflict in the middle east, though personally I think he is a one term President so he probably won't get a chance.

Sadly however all of these genuine concerns are drowned out by "TRUMP IS A RACIST HE IS LITERALLY HITLER!"

Trump isn't even as bad as Obama or George W Bush or Bill Clinton ALL of whom started conflicts in foreign countries, killed millions of innocent people and helped give rise to international terrorist groups that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people around the world.

By default Trump so far is the best President of the past 20 years and even if he does start another conflict well he'll only be equalling his blood soaked predecessors.

Trump's kind of like the modern day Gerald Ford or John Major. Neither of those guys were great, but at the very least they don't have anything like the poll tax or the second Iraq war or the Libyan crisis on their record.

However all of these idiot SJWs want a boogeyman to hate and because they are too cowardly to take on the actual causes of racism and sexist then they make Trump Hitler 2.0. I wouldn't even mind if it wasn't for the fact that they make out they are the resistance for opposing Trump when its the most safe, establishment, boring thing to be anti Trump. Richard H Cooper is one of the worst for that.

Going on about how anti Trump he is because he's anti fascist when if he did come into contact with an actual fascist he'd be the last person to challenge them.

I hate this fucking tosser:

https://twitter.com/benjamin_cook/status/1066761825147068416

Good news boys.
Jawdie's ditched the Tennant impression.
She's swapped it for a stab at a desperate Eccelston.

Doctor Who 2018:

Whittaker: Ey up ahm t'Doctah ah am. Brwwrrilynt, innit? [gurning escalates]

NPC1: I am angry. Angry about [STEPFATHER]

NPC2: I can do anything a normal copper can do! Except fight, run, operate firearms, use nonlethal subdual, have a basic understanding of the law, meet the height requirements, use correct official vocab as per the guidelines... #FILENOTFOUNDRETURN ERROR

NPC3: I am sorry. Sorry about [WHITEGUILT#-1]

NPC2: Nothing To Do With Islam

NPC3: I am sorry. Sorry about [WHITEGUILT#-89]

Whittaker: Eeee. Ahm reet pleezd wi'meself ah am.

NPC1: I am going to fall over now, for no reason at all. I am better now and have Spider-Man agility! Pyoo! Pyoo! [murders innocent character] That happened because I am differently abled.

NPC2: Quickly fellow quintessentially british people we must now namecheck [SJWFILE#-701]


Where are they this week?

Like it matters.

Genkimonk wrote:

Commander Maxil wrote:"Somebody cannot be this blatantly stupid"

YouTuber rips apart MrTARDISFucker's latest video:

Complains that people complaining probably know very little of the show, then proceeds to call the main character "Doctor Who".

Fucking cunts.

"Mr Tardis" is a Doctor Who version of Mundane Matt. Not some random fuckwit, a shill and control agent, paid or not. But most likely paid or rewarded in some way. There are thousands of them. The bloated budget of the BBC executives pay for these swine out of their office expenses. Look at how high those expenses are. This is the kind of abuse that taxpayer money pays for.

Life is vastly superior without Nuwho. I don't know why I waited until last week to pack it in. I might find some screencaps of Yaz and see if they're worth wanking over, but asides from that I couldn't care less if I don't see another frame from the new series ever again.

"Mr Tardis" is a Doctor Who version of Mundane Matt. Not some random fuckwit, a shill and control agent, paid or not. But most likely paid or rewarded in some way. There are thousands of them. The bloated budget of the BBC executives pay for these swine out of their office expenses. Look at how high those expenses are. This is the kind of abuse that taxpayer money pays for.

MundaneMatt was never as bad as Mr Tardis. He was a bit mamby pamby, but come on here. Mr Tardis is a total hypocrite, a slanderous little shit and a deeply stupid man.

Commander Maxil wrote:Life is vastly superior without Nuwho. I don't know why I waited until last week to pack it in. .

Neither do I. I was done after the castration and the character assassination of the First Doctor.
And yes, it's so much better without that swill. You still get to point and laugh, but without actually contaminating your soul with this tripe.

burrunjor wrote:

"Mr Tardis" is a Doctor Who version of Mundane Matt. Not some random fuckwit, a shill and control agent, paid or not. But most likely paid or rewarded in some way. There are thousands of them. The bloated budget of the BBC executives pay for these swine out of their office expenses. Look at how high those expenses are. This is the kind of abuse that taxpayer money pays for.

MundaneMatt was never as bad as Mr Tardis. He was a bit mamby pamby, but come on here. Mr Tardis is a total hypocrite, a slanderous little shit and a deeply stupid man.

irrespective of style, Mundane Matt, Mr Tardis and many others are paid (or rewarded) influencers. They aren't "just fans" or whatever they are part of an East German Stasi type operation which is now a normal component of lapdog media activities. The BBC would see itself as negligent in the execution of its agenda if it DIDN'T have agenturs enforcing its glecischaltung.

Sinister stuff.

"Happines Will Prevail!"

Oh dear ratings down at 5.6 million. OUCH. We can say that the viewers this year on average are at 5 million. Yes they were a bit higher for the first episode because of the hype, but this is what they really are.

Now fair enough that is higher than Capaldi's last year. Still its crap all around. This is in the best possible timeslot for a tv show, on before Strictly the Beeb's flagship show.

Next year its viewers will be down as they always are from series to series. About 4 million I'd say.

Oh Mr Tardis must be feeling quite stupid with his it's average viewers will shoot up past the Bodyguard to 15 million. This SJW crap killed the Capaldi era, sinking its viewers to absolute record lows (which says a lot considering the smear campaign in the 80s the BBC launched against it.)

Then they get a few episodes that were popular because of the hype, and the curiosity factor, even from people who hate it (like us here) and they act as though the SJW crap is good for a series. Thankfully it's now slipping back to its lowest episodes.

If only someone had been saying to them that this shit was career suicide and that they shouldn't have done it since 2013. I can't think of anyone who said that to them.

Ah I feel glorious, glorious I got a chance to be proven right about the failure of SJW Who again, just like the Capaldi era.

I enjoyed Witchfinders...as for the rating, yeah, pretty telling it's only the die-hards that are sticking with the show on day of transmission and regardless of consolidated figures, I doubt the heads of the Beeb are pleased with that turn out. I've seen a few casts on Youtube encourage torrenting too.