Do you guys think England could win the World Cup?

I must admit I am a little shocked they got this far.

Would be something if they did win. First time in almost 50 years!

PS I know as a Scotsman I should be rooting for anyone other than England LOL, but I don't care. I hope they win. LOVE the English. Their women, sci fi and music are the best!

I will admit though the only thing that would be annoying about an England victory is the fact that Russia's hosting.

The British media have been such cunts about Russia recently. I'm not saying Russia is perfect. It IS a homophobic country, however the British media has been stirring up shit that isn't true like Putin controlling every election on the planet practically. They're dragging us into another cold war, and you just know how smug they'd be about this.

Still I suppose the English teams shouldn't be punished because their media are cunts.

"Do you guys think England could win the World Cup?"

In a word, no.

I will laugh however if we make the final against Russia and they novichok us out of it.

Oh, the gammon heads which will explode...

At least Croatia put Russia out meaning there's no possibility for recent political tensions to get worse if we'd faced them...

Croatia might have something to say about all this premature triumphalism.

Not a fan of the 'It's coming home' stuff. For the first time in years we go into a tournament without the usual hype and fanfare about winning the cup, and a 22 year old refrain from a pop song comes back to haunt England's tournament.

It's the sense of entitlement in the phrase that fucks me off; the sense that we own the game like it's some kind of relic of Victorian Britain that's finally going to take its place in the tower with all the other crown jewels.

It's also a phrase that begs for its hubris to be deflated. It's main message is 'we've won it already'. People love to punish that kind of arrogance. It motivates the opposition, and sets you up for the sort of giant, unedifying disaster that sees low IQ, pissed-up mortadella men rampage uncontrollably in the streets.

I can't stand the national anthem either, or anything that transmits the idea of superiority based-upon the square of dirt you were born on. Mind, if anything, God Save the Queen is an ode not to the monarch, but to nationalists' desire to acquiesce to an all-powerful authority figure. You can definitely tell who the mental serfs are during a performance of GStQ.

It's also a phrase that begs for its hubris to be deflated. It's main message is 'we've won it already'. People love to punish that kind of arrogance. It motivates the opposition, and sets you up for the sort of giant, unedifying disaster that sees low IQ, pissed-up mortadella men rampage uncontrollably in the streets.

Well its not like its only the English that do that. Remember the humiliating display the Scots put on in the late 70s with songs about how they are going to win the World Cup.

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And that was before the competition had even begun! At least England are in the semi final. What was our excuse for being so sure we'd win?

PS don't think I hate my own country. Scotland has given the world so much, Our contributions are vast, and dwarf most countries several times our own size's contributions. I also voted for Scottish independence too, as I believe we deserve to be seen as our own culture, and not just a part of England.

However I do feel that the English are too self loathing. Patriotism in England is a dirty word. I think its the London liberal bubble who have linked English patriotism to racism. You guys need a new capital city. London's not doing you any favours right now.

Obviously you shouldn't get so patriotic to the point where you think you are superior because of where you're born. However at the same time we should be proud of what our forefathers achieved and not just toss the great culture and society they built through adversity in the bin, which a lot of millenials are doing by making being proud of your country a bad trait.

IMO the English have every right to think they are going to win. In France and Belgium they'll be jumping for joy and acting as though they are going to win, but in England fans will be getting shamed for it, with some idiots linking it to racism.

Personally I hope the English win only because it might fix their self loathing problem for a short while at least.

Well that's that. So close but so far. I think it would have been great if England won for the country's self esteem, but I must admit I do hope Croatia win as they have never won it before.

I will say though all the "its coming home" stuff was cringey. Who do you think made the bigger fools of themselves in thinking they had won it? England today or Scotland in the 70s.

Scotland.

They had a fucking parade...

Before they'd even got on the plane.

You can't surpass that.

Boofer wrote:Scotland.

They had a fucking parade...

Before they'd even got on the plane.

You can't surpass that.

Yeah true, plus drawing with Peru when you go on about showing the world a class of football they can only dream of is hilarious in hindsight.

We're going to get 3rd place. Something's coming home, just not the World Cup.

Commander Maxil wrote:We're going to get 3rd place. Something's coming home, just not the World Cup.

Hey man great to see you back. Where you been?

burrunjor wrote:

Commander Maxil wrote:We're going to get 3rd place. Something's coming home, just not the World Cup.

Hey man great to see you back. Where you been?

Thanks, buddy. I was chilling out away from the internet for a while. It's nice to be back.

Commander Maxil wrote:

burrunjor wrote:

Commander Maxil wrote:We're going to get 3rd place. Something's coming home, just not the World Cup.

Hey man great to see you back. Where you been?

Thanks, buddy. I was chilling out away from the internet for a while. It's nice to be back.

Haha yeah I understand it can get quite smothering. I'd just look on this place as like a digital pub. Its just a place to go to rant about things. Nothing more.

Well actually apparently we are all evil, women hating, lower class hating, psychopathic man children!

That was a bit flat. Harry Kane is so obviously carrying something. Still, very proud of the boys for even getting as far as that.

Commander Maxil wrote:That was a bit flat. Harry Kane is so obviously carrying something. Still, very proud of the boys for even getting as far as that.

Yeah 4th place is pretty damn good.

You're a very rare kind of Scotsman. I could almost hear the giant orgasm they had when Croatia beat us.

They did give a pretty good performance. Football is annoying reliant on what is, from a human perspective, essentially random chance - most obviously for goal attempts. They were close enough in skill to France/Belgium/Croatia that they could have won it if the probabilities had favoured them better. Still, it's obvious that none-setpiece goalscoring is their weakest area.


Very entertaining World Cup though.