Shittiest Moffat script

Which of Moffat’s scripts is the most egregious? I am currently unable to choose between Death In Heaven and Twice Upon a Time, though there are many other worthy candidates here too.

Depends on which one I'm using as toilet paper at the time.

Day of the Dogs Dinner and everything else after it

I went for Death in Heaven

But, seriously..... picking the worse Moffat story is like picking which testicle you'd rather get cancer in.

Twice Upon a Turd, for shitting on the legacy of not just William Hartnell, but everyone who ever contributed to his era, turning Capaldi's Doctor into a self-censoring cuck, and introducing the execrable Chibnall/Whittaker duo. It was the point at which whatever minute scintilla of hope NuWho had left died. A disaster of franchise-destroying proportions.

Fuck me, with so many shitty episodes to choose from, it's hard to pick just one. I've gone for Time of The Doctor-  but I can't really remember an awful lot of NuWho episodes, because, fortunately, I only watched them once and I was usually worse for drink at the time. TOTD stands out as particularly bad because it seemed to feature a tweeness/whimsy overload, with the Doctor growing old on a pretty little Christmas planet, making toys for the kiddies. I also thought that using regeneration energy to destroy the Dalek fleet was ludicrous. Plus Matt Smith looks rather hideous in that old age make-up.

There are probably much worse Moffat episodes than TOTD, but I really don't want to subject myself to a rewatch in order to find out.

While there's plenty of shit, it has to be Twice Upon a Turd, for the reasons ClockworkOcean so eloquently posits.

I’ve settled on Twice Upon a Time as well.

If I can be arsed, I’ll do another one of these on RTD’s scripts at some point. I don’t know if I’d even vote on a shittiest Chibnall script poll, mind, given I barely watched any of series 11.

Husbands of River Song.

Based on the fact that I’ve only seen approximately half of these, I had to go with the Wedding of bloody River Song.

stengos wrote:Husbands of River Song.

What! This scene was absolutely beautiful. It gets to who the Doctor is, is so romantic and sexy, and totally not a lot of self indulgent, ego porn, bad fan fic bullshit.

ClockworkOcean wrote:Twice Upon a Turd, for shitting on the legacy of not just William Hartnell, but everyone who ever contributed to his era, turning Capaldi's Doctor into a self-censoring cuck, and introducing the execrable Chibnall/Whittaker duo. It was the point at which whatever minute scintilla of hope NuWho had left died. A disaster of franchise-destroying proportions.

 

Moffat's insistence on doing that to Hartnell's Doctor didn't even mash up with the trash he had written the week before. Literally two weeks ago the self loathing twat wrote in that Time Lords have no concept of gender whatsoever, and that the Doctor wasn't even sure if he was a man as William Hartnell.

Yet at the same time the First Doctor has the attitudes of a guy from the 60s? Moffat just does wherever he can to virtue signal and logic and continuity and character development be damned. Its only for ming mongs anyway.

Re: Twat Upon A Time- Its burns me more how Moffat outright wiped his ass on not only Hartnell's tombstone but Verity Lambert's.

She'd hate everything he and Chibnall's done had she had one more decade with us on Earth.

HenriDucard89 wrote:Re: Twat Upon A Time- Its burns me more how Moffat outright wiped his ass on not only Hartnell's tombstone but Verity Lambert's.

She'd hate everything he and Chibnall's done had she had one more decade with us on Earth.

Absolutely. As would Jacqueline Hill, Delia Derbyshire, and everyone else involved with Hartnell’s era. The thing I find the most sickening about Twice Upon a Time is how it lambasts Hartnell’s era for being sexist, in spite of featuring female talents akin to the ones I mention above, and talents which kick the shit out of the pitiful talent involved in New Who.

Verity Lambert was a legend in British TV and a feminine icon in that field, and shows RTD, Moffat and Chibnall up to be the fucking talentless twats they are. Delia Derbyshire, through taking inspiration from Musique Concréte and refining it for her works, managed to inspire the musical outputs of Aphex Twin, The Chemical Brothers, and an entire genre of electronic music. What the fuck has Murray Gold ever done to rival that? He’s conservative as all hell by comparison, and has only revelled in ripping off John Williams, yet he receives full recognition within fandom and receives a prom, and is praised due to inciting “emotion” within the stories, whilst she rarely gets a passing mention. The difference in innovation, talent and intelligence between the two is staggering.

Yet Moffat feels obliged to ignore those talents in favour of lambasting the entirety of Hartnell’s legacy in favour of some distorted form of progressivism. It’s just pathetic, and lacks any self-awareness or respect for prior, genuinely progressive talents, yet we’re supposed to ignore that in favour of Whittaker’s piss poor rendition of the character being perceived as a progressive icon. Fucking bollocks. She’s about as conservative a creation as one could imagine, offering nothing new to anything and merely squandering the image of this character and the political ideal they seem so desperate to represent via an embarrassing caricatured lens. And above all, serving as a direct mockery of both those pioneering talents and their legacy- a means of lambasting the past in order to upscale themselves, ignorant of the contextual connotations involved. What a mockery and a parody of human intelligence and dignity in equal measure.

Still, as with Ozymandias, the artistic output of New Who and those involved will ‘decay’ and be rendered ‘boundless and bare’ amongst the ‘lone and level sands’ of a once beloved staple of British TV, as New Who will age rapidly in spite of its lingering popularist appeal. As much as they wish to lambast the past, they’ll certainly find themselves there quickly.

Twice Upon A Time.
It’s pure revisionist shit designed to turn modern audiences against better, real Doctor Who. Mofftwat has gone on record stating that hates 60’s Who and this was him turning that hate into an episode.

Having actually watched 60’s Who I can safely say that the entire Hartnell era has more talent, effort and genuine heart then anything Mofftwat, the smug prick, has ever written. I’m convinced that Empty Child and Blink were pure flukes, as pretty much every other thing this idiot has ever written has been utter shite and on the occasions it wasn’t, it didn’t take him long to make it so. With almost predictable rapidity.

Space Demon King wrote:Twice Upon A Time.
It’s pure revisionist shit designed to turn modern audiences against better, real Doctor Who. Mofftwat has gone on record stating that hates 60’s Who and this was him turning that hate into an episode.

Having actually watched 60’s Who I can safely say that the entire Hartnell era has more talent, effort and genuine heart then anything Mofftwat, the smug prick, has ever written. I’m convinced that Empty Child and Blink were pure flukes, as pretty much every other thing this idiot has ever written has been utter shite and on the occasions it wasn’t, it didn’t take him long to make it so. With almost predictable rapidity.

I'd argue that the Empty Child was utter shit too. Yeah it had some creepy moments, but those were outweighed by the cringey moments.

The Doctor talking about dancing is embarassing. Leaving aside how out of place it is for the Doctor, it's cringey as hell anyway.

Let's compare this scene from a writer who according to Moffat should have been clubbed to death for his output to The Empty Child.





Says it all really.

burrunjor wrote:

stengos wrote:Husbands of River Song.

What! This scene was absolutely beautiful. It gets to who the Doctor is, is so romantic and sexy, and totally not a lot of self indulgent, ego porn, bad fan fic bullshit.

He really should have left as he intended with this and left one series to Gatiss or someone in a caretaker role. If only all River scenes were played like this with The Doctor.

River should only have been used three times, Library, Time of Angels, and this. This still would have been the weakest of the three, but at least it would be redeemed on the back-end of this and the closing minutes of the story.