Changing Gender Debate

Recently, my sister has come out as transgender. I know it is wrong of me, but I am extremely sceptical given her behaviour in the past. Frankly, my sister has always behaved in an immature way, and the family have long suspected a mild form of autism. I am very much concerned that she is simply copying popular trends due to the media narrative at the moment. She has allows been a follower.

Now, I am saying this not to say I deny her choice, but that I am extremely worried by how easy it is becoming for people to say they are of the wrong gender. And I worry that the NHS will look at the transgenderism being the cause of my sister's problems, rather than being a symptom of a much bigger problem.

To be fair, I am not saying transgenderism equates to autism, but I do suspect this is the case with my own sister. I am just saying that the current climate may encourage misdiagnosis, especially on people like my sister.

I also think we realllly need to have a proper debate on the issue. Can someone really change gender?

One thing I do not understand about these gender politics and shifting genders is that why are people not acknowledging that the person you are, including the gender you are viewed as, is moulded by society. I am a man, not just because of my DNA, but because of what society made of me. Not being able to cry when sad. Expected to behave a certain way. Choices removed from my path because of how I was born.

All of these make you what you are. If you haven't lived them, can you ever truly change gender? In some ways, its a little insulting because its like skipping to the end without living the hardships.

I do appreciate it is a complex biological issue with social ramifications to boot. I am not denying transgenderism, but I do think the debate need to address the above.

You can't just claim to be an engineer without first studying engineering.

You can't claim to be a good tennis player without first becoming good at tennis.

So, as gender is a sociological construct (in the metaphysical sense), why is it viewed as so easy to change by modern western society?

Genkimonk wrote:Recently, my sister has come out as transgender. I know it is wrong of me, but I am extremely sceptical given her behaviour in the past. Frankly, my sister has always behaved in an immature way, and the family have long suspected a mild form of autism. I am very much concerned that she is simply copying popular trends due to the media narrative at the moment. She has allows been a follower.

Now, I am saying this not to say I deny her choice, but that I am extremely worried by how easy it is becoming for people to say they are of the wrong gender. And I worry that the NHS will look at the transgenderism being the cause of my sister's problems, rather than being a symptom of a much bigger problem.

To be fair, I am not saying transgenderism equates to autism, but I do suspect this is the case with my own sister. I am just saying that the current climate may encourage misdiagnosis, especially on people like my sister.

I also think we realllly need to have a proper debate on the issue. Can someone really change gender?

One thing I do not understand about these gender politics and shifting genders is that why are people not acknowledging that the person you are, including the gender you are viewed as, is moulded by society. I am a man, not just because of my DNA, but because of what society made of me. Not being able to cry when sad. Expected to behave a certain way. Choices removed from my path because of how I was born.

All of these make you what you are. If you haven't lived them, can you ever truly change gender? In some ways, its a little insulting because its like skipping to the end without living the hardships.

I do appreciate it is a complex biological issue with social ramifications to boot. I am not denying transgenderism, but I do think the debate need to address the above.

You can't just claim to be an engineer without first studying engineering.

You can't claim to be a good tennis player without first becoming good at tennis.

So, as gender is a sociological construct (in the metaphysical sense), why is it viewed as so easy to change by modern western society?

Interesting subject and welcome back Genkimonk. Sorry to hear you've been going through a hard time recently. I've endured a few hardships and losses recently too.

I think this transgender craze is comparable to the gay craze of the 70s. Now I wasn't around then, but I have heard from several people that a lot of guys pretended to be gay back then just to give themselves some kind of personality and for attention. About 99 percent of these guys were married with kids by the end of the 70s.

REAL gay people hated these poseurs meanwhile as they felt they cheapened homosexuality by just making out its a cool fad you go through in college, or at the start of your career if you're a celebrity, and downplayed how hard it had been for actual homosexuals, even in just the 60s, a time when homosexuality was still so frowned upon that Brian Epstein tragically took his own life out of fear of being found out.

There was a similar craze in the 00s. South Park memorably skewered it in the Crab People episode.

Here we have a similar situation. Transgenderism like homosexuality was sadly seen as a perverted, twisted thing. Even if people didn't actively want to persecute them, they'd still largely see transexuals as weird, creepy and a laughing stock.

Now however that it is accepted, we see lots of people jumping on that bandwagon to be seen as edgy and brave. Its a way of saying "I lived through persecution" without actually having to have lived through it. That's what all this gender fluidity nonsense is.

There are real trans people of course. Scientific studies have shown that many transgender people are actually born with brains that match the opposite sex. Men and women have different brains. That's not to say that one sex is smarter. They both need each other, or else there wouldn't be two sexes! Still their brains are different, and as a result, yes trans people in a way are born in the wrong body.

Now in terms of changing sex, well obviously you don't change your sex completely. A transgender woman can never have a womb, and a trans woman can't have a penis. (You do get intersex people, but that's a different thing, and even then the majority of intersex people still are one gender, they just might have sexual organs belonging to the opposite sex, like Lady C who was born with a penis that she had removed.)

Still as Blaire White has argued since these people are effectively born in the wrong body, then changing sex even in a more superficial way, at present is really the best treatment for them. When you look at Blaire White you can see what a happy, gorgeous, and well adjusted person she is because she is now comfortable in her own skin. I would never dream of calling Blaire White a man. Instinctively I'd just call her a woman anyway as well look at her.



However even if she didn't look like that I wouldn't go out of my way to call her a man. People who do always call trans women he and him like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens are pig ignorant (They're both cunts all around anyway.)

As for these transtrenders, well I wouldn't go out of my way to misgender them, but a lot of the time they do annoy me when insisting on being called the correct pronouns for the following reasons.

1/ Their pronouns are often literally made up. Their things like Xe, Xer, or even just they.

2/ Unlike Blaire these people don't have any reconstructive surgery or alter their bodies. They will literally just be a tomboy, or an effeminate man which isn't the same fucking thing. Again I'd imagine people like Blaire White must genuinely despise these people as they cheapen what she went through with the surgery, the financial costs and even just the years she spent struggling in the wrong body. These people make it look like being a bit of a girly man is the same thing. Its NOT!

3/ These people often don't bother to change their appearances in ANYWAY that would indicate they are a different gender. It will literally be a guy with earings, or a woman with purple hair. How am I to figure out that's a new gender? Added to that they will get upset and maybe even get you fired if you misgender them by mistake (because again they want the victim status so this is their way of getting that.)

Teacher accused of Misgendering investigated by the police

I absolutely think that children should not be allowed to transition.

Changing your body in such a drastic way is arguably the biggest decision you can make in your life, so you NEED to be old enough to comprehend what that fully means. Its child abuse to let a child mess around with their body.

Finally in regards to gender being a social construct I think that's a lot of shit.

Our behaviours come about because of evolution. Our society was built on our natural instincts, where the men go out and hunt, and the women stay in and look after the children.

Now I'm not saying that's right. In nature we also have sex with our siblings and use our tongue's to clean our genitals. In a modern society a woman should be allowed to go out and have a job, and a man should be allowed to stay at home with the children. Hell I LOVE tomboys, but still you do have to accept that our behaviour will be by and large governed by our instincts.

Men on average will be naturally more aggressive, women on average will be naturally more empathetic. Blaire White did a great video on the subject actually.

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As to where trans people fit into this, well once again they are anomalies. They are people who thanks to a genetic disorder are born with the brains of the opposite gender, and currently the best way to treat that is to allow them to physically resemble the gender their brain matches.

When I say they are anomalies BTW I don't mean they are freaks, or evil . Depression is caused by anomalies in the brain chemistry, and I suffer from it, but that' doesn't mean I'm evil or a freak.

Sadly the SJWs are going to do more harm than good for transgenderism, as they ARE making it out to be a fad, and actually undermining the hardship of gender dysphoria, of actually living in the wrong body by making out its basically a college phase (which they are unitentionally.)

It’s a dysmorphia. You can assume the traits of the other sex and call it ‘gender’, you can even mutilate your body physically and chemically to better resemble the other sex: but your sex doesn’t change.
Our concepts of sex and gender aren’t truly separate, either. I’m sure every ‘transgender’ will be distressed by the haunting truth that they’re only an imitation: they can never really change sex. Can you imagine how painful that would be to be reminded of that? You’ve gone and destroyed your body past the point of no return, you are too far gone now: and yet you can never be what you’re trying to be?
So they supress the truth. Not only their own, but they demand that the entire world falls in line with their delusion. I’m sure that would make them feel better, but even if that were possible they are still at odds with the truth. An endless battle with cognitive dissonance.
With that comes depression and any other number of comorbid illnesses. It isn’t a healthy way to live – in pretense. Much less so with the kind of things required to better make that pretense.

They need to realize that your sex is not prescriptive of behaviour, only descriptive. They actually tend to express the other extreme – that sex and gender are without any union: which is plainly untrue. At the same time, they think that because they don’t belong to the description of their own sex that they must be the other.

It’s a mental health issue, a harmful delusion that needs to be treated. Yet the moral zeitgeist prefers to encourage it.