Star Trek

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Adam Ant Driver wrote:I thought Star Trek was always diverse?

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BREAKING: Nicholas Meyer Working on Khan Limited TV Series

Writer-director Nicholas Meyer became a Star Trek icon in 1982 when he directed (and for the most part wrote) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, the low-budget follow-up to the first Star Trek movie from 1979, which was a box office hit but which cost so much to make that Paramount elected to follow it up with a smaller picture produced by their television division.

Ethan Whites post New Star Trek and New Who similarities.

JJ Abrams described his ST film as, "Star Trek for the rest of us." Basically, he meant that it was a watered down version for mass appeal rather than the specific demographic the original 10 films & 4 series were aimed at.
I think what's most off-putting about it is that it's the antithesis of what Roddenberry envisioned - ST was meant to be a story about discovery, exploration, technology, a bright future for mankind as we stake our claim among the stars in this grand universe.

Abrams' ST films were generic to the core, falling back on a traditional "good vs evil" format and basically reducing ST to sex, violence & over-emphasized action sequences. (Wrath of Kahn was the only one of the original 6 to use the good vs evil format, however, the TNG films also foolishly recycled this story in every single installment: Soren, Borg, the Son'a, Shinzon.)

Like modern DW, the Abrams films resemble their source material in name only, and fleeting glimpses of other elements like character names, uniform colors, general ship layout/appearance/function, etc. That is the extent of how much "Star Trek" is in those films, and it's why they're so heavily panned by Trekkies. If you remove those fleeting elements, you've got a summer sci-fi action flick that could be titled anything and would still work.

Mr. Happy wrote:

Ethan Whites post New Star Trek and New Who similarities.

JJ Abrams described his ST film as, "Star Trek for the rest of us." Basically, he meant that it was a watered down version for mass appeal rather than the specific demographic the original 10 films & 4 series were aimed at.
I think what's most off-putting about it is that it's the antithesis of what Roddenberry envisioned - ST was meant to be a story about discovery, exploration, technology, a bright future for mankind as we stake our claim among the stars in this grand universe.

Abrams' ST films were generic to the core, falling back on a traditional "good vs evil" format and basically reducing ST to sex, violence & over-emphasized action sequences. (Wrath of Kahn was the only one of the original 6 to use the good vs evil format, however, the TNG films also foolishly recycled this story in every single installment: Soren, Borg, the Son'a, Shinzon.)

Like modern DW, the Abrams films resemble their source material in name only, and fleeting glimpses of other elements like character names, uniform colors, general ship layout/appearance/function, etc. That is the extent of how much "Star Trek" is in those films, and it's why they're so heavily panned by Trekkies. If you remove those fleeting elements, you've got a summer sci-fi action flick that could be titled anything and would still work.

Mr. Happy wrote:CBS launched an official fan-film-academy for people who want to make Star Trek videos

http://boingboing.net/2017/08/07/trekkers-ascendant.html

Mr. Happy wrote:‘White genocide in space’: Racist fans seethe at diversity in new ‘Star Trek’ series.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/white-genocide-in-space-racist-fans-seethe-at-diversity-in-new-star-trek-series/

The only complete Star Trek series I have seen is Next Generation, although I have seen most fo the films. I keep meaning to get round to watching the original series but have a box set of Babylon 5 that I have been meaning to watch for ages.

Anyway, I am quite optimistic about this series.

Zarius wrote:Anyone watch Discovery?

Spock's half-sister is so dumb and essentially screws her ship over trying to engage the Klingons. Sarek has god sue powers and can reach out to her anywhere. She has a man's name. The Discovery ship and crew aren't even in the first two hours of the thing. The Pilot actually ends on a cliffhanger (and there was only one episode of this transmitted on television, so anyone not paying or unwilling to pay for the all access stream will never learn how it's resolved)

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Zarius wrote:Anyone watch Discovery?

Spock's half-sister is so dumb and essentially screws her ship over trying to engage the Klingons. Sarek has god sue powers and can reach out to her anywhere. She has a man's name. The Discovery ship and crew aren't even in the first two hours of the thing. The Pilot actually ends on a cliffhanger (and there was only one episode of this transmitted on television, so anyone not paying or unwilling to pay for the all access stream will never learn how it's resolved)

Yeah but look on the bright side. At least they didn't revive the old Leonard Nimoy version of Spock who died as a Borg with rocket boots, make Kirk president of the universe, or cast Sarah Silverman as Khan and have her want to shag Kirk and murder any other woman that looks at her man twice