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Will NuWho get a Series 13?

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1Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th February 2019, 10:25 pm

bryanbraddock

bryanbraddock

NuWho is dead. Only the death rattle of series 12 remains.
Steven Moffat's overlong tenure which cultivated a sense of apathy in the audience followed by Chris Chibnall's Social Justice abortion have killed it.
Only a tiny minority of ideologues and die hard's think the show is still savable.

Doctor Who magazine's readership is in terminal decline, the show has lost it's primetime slot, it's Christmas day slot and 3 of it's episodes along with half it's fanbase. the show isn't even guaranteed a series every year anymore, and rumors are that series 12 will only consist of 8 episodes when it does air sometime in 2020.

Doctor Who: The complete collection has ended without including series 11. Even Doctor Who: Legacy has been axed.

Surly the BBC wont bother with another reboot after series 12?

2Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th February 2019, 11:04 pm

iank

iank

I don't know. My only concern is that cancellation could have a knock-on effect on things I do want to see more of, like the animations.
I'm not sure they would cancel though. It's one of the few big IPs the BBC has left, and that's more important to them these days than it was in the 80s. I think another revamp is more likely, but without any acknowledgement of 13's failure. My bet is they'll spin out Pisstaker's tenure until the New Year's Day special on Jan 1 2021, making out that 2 seasons and a few specials is a standard 3 year run and still declaring it a big success, and then bring it back again for a series late 2022 with a new Doctor and showrunner. Like the banks, it's too big to be allowed to collapse today.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKNC69I8Mq_pJfvBireybsg

3Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th February 2019, 11:41 pm

burrunjor

burrunjor

I fucking hope not. I agree with Ian that it's painful decline over the next few years will sadly have a devastating effect on the brand as a whole. I think this "its brand is too big to be cancelled" train of thought is nonsense though.

Its not been a big brand for years. Really since the 50th. Its viewers have crashed every year since then, except for a brief spurt in the first few Bubble episodes, but even then they are going back down again. Its DVD sales are down, its magazine's sales are down, and the merchandise isn't exactly  a big seller either.

It could easily go and the Beeb could just keep making money off of the DVDs. If it was such a juggernaut, then they wouldn't keep giving it gap years. There has been a gap year every year since 2015.

Meanwhile enjoy some more lesbian porno pictures inspired by Worzel Gummidge and the bloke from Tiswas, tweeted by Claudia Boleyn (who as Bryan Braddock pointed out is quite possibly the single best example of why the shows fandom is toxic.)

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This is the same Claudia Boleyn who tweets about how much she hates it when the sexist Doctor Who fans objectify the female companions, and about how much she hates these creepy, smelly, fans at conventions creeping her out when they say they think an actress is hot. Totally not a double standard brought about by her hatred of men.

As I've said before I'm not even angry anymore. Its fucking hilarious. PS in the middle of the Flash season 1 finale. God Tom Cavannagh is amazing. He is ten times the actor Jodie is. (Not that that would be difficult.)

4Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 5th February 2019, 9:07 am

Zarius

Zarius

It'll likely go on like Power Rangers, or The Simpsons, but like both of those, it's significance and point is entirely lost these days. Some things just come to the end of their natural lifespan. Cultural entropy is increasing and the times are leaving the old guard behind.

5Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 5th February 2019, 10:20 am

Boofer

Boofer

The ideal situation would be for the BBC to rest the show until the licence fee has been rescinded and the organisation becomes a commercial entity reliant on advertising.

Even populist writing is vastly superior to wholesale attempts to brainwash entire sections of the population with condescending neo-marxist social propaganda.

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Tacitly related, there does appear to be a higher proportion of people with personality disorders pushing the 'anti-everything that isn't me or threatens me' agenda (much of it self-ascribed).

Such begs the following questions:

- Why should we take the belligerent sociopolitical musings of such people seriously when their cognition is self-admittedly distorted?  

- Are people who struggle to regulate their emotions and have tendencies to 'switch' on people and entire demographics, really the best arbiters of what constitutes social justice?

- Furthermore, why should any of these people then be placed into positions of cultural influence?

I'm beginning to think the entire modern social justice movement is predicated on an ideology that not only panders to those with unhinged neuroses about their fragmented identities, but that also creates said fragmentation in the first place.

It's like an ideological form of Stockholm Syndrome. These people are captive to their own miseries and having them constantly reinforced by an ideology that gives them an 'other' to blame.

6Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 5th February 2019, 8:59 pm

iank

iank

I couldn't agree more. To put it more simply, they're cunts.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKNC69I8Mq_pJfvBireybsg

7Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 7th February 2019, 5:54 pm

burrunjor

burrunjor

Not sure if this is relevant but I saw this and it made me LOL

Mr Tardis retweets someone saying Doctor Who is more important than men and debases himself as a man.

Doctor Who Before Dudes.

God how pathetic. Who confiscated his balls?

I also find it ironic that he made this clip of Tom Baker doing a sinking Titanic impression his pinned tweet.

Can Tom Baker Doing A Sinking Titanic Impression

About sums up the state of the franchise these days. If its ever going to become a meme then it should be one about Jodie Big Grin

8Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 7th February 2019, 7:17 pm

Pepsi Maxil

Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master

"Us dudes have it coming"

But I haven't done anything!

9Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 7th February 2019, 7:29 pm

Pepsi Maxil

Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master

burrunjor wrote:Not sure if this is relevant but I saw this and it made me LOL

Mr Tardis retweets someone saying Doctor Who is more important than men and debases himself as a man.

Doctor Who Before Dudes.

God how pathetic. Who confiscated his balls?  

I also find it ironic that he made this clip of Tom Baker doing a sinking Titanic impression his pinned tweet.

Can Tom Baker Doing A Sinking Titanic Impression

About sums up the state of the franchise these days. If its ever going to become a meme then it should be one about Jodie Big Grin

Happy Birthday, by the way.

10Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 8th February 2019, 3:21 am

ClockworkOcean

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At this point, it really depends on whether or not the lunatic fringe audience will be enough for the Beeb to sustain some flimsy pretence of popularity. Series 11's audience retention rate was abysmal, but the raw numbers are still enough to fool those less inclined to examine the details. However, if the decline continues in line with the recent trend and drops below Series 10 levels, then another hiatus could become a very real possibility.

If we look at the Capaldi era, Series 8 managed respectable viewing figures in spite of considerable dissatisfaction from various sections of the audience. It was only with the Series 9 debut that the full extent of the public's loss of interest became apparent. It seems that a lot of people force themselves to sit through an entire series once they've started it, only giving up if they're still dissatisfied by the end. About halfway through, I saw a lot of disgruntled NuWho fans on Reddit vowing to give the Chibnall era one full series to prove itself and no more. I don't imagine many of them will be returning.

The gap year may also work in our favour. After a whole year's absence, much of the controversy will have faded to apathy, and significantly fewer will be bothered to hate-watch.

Speaking of Reddit, I was permanently banned from both subs for (very politely) suggesting that a hiatus would be preferable to the show continuing in its current state. While it's nowhere near as fucked up as Gallifrey Base, be aware that it's tightly controlled by SJWs and shills who also shamelessly abuse the spam filter to shadow ban critics of Chibnall & Whittaker. The fact that even a platform ruled by corrupt mods hellbent on censoring criticism is overflowing with disdain is encouraging.

11Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 13th February 2019, 6:17 am

TheTimeTraveller

TheTimeTraveller

Nerdrotic is a semi insider in Hollywood since he is an ex-employee of the studios. Whether it's his contacts or his own judgement he is usually correct when he makes calls about cancellations.

He predicted 12 will be the last series after which it will be cancelled or torn to pieces in "specials" that aren't and THEN cancelled.

They can't cast another woman in the female spinoff because it will trigger comparisons with Whittaker. So this is a suicide mission for the caretaker production crew anyway. They've already killed Who and Nu Who, now they're just interfering with the corpse like the mad monsters they are.

12Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 15th February 2019, 12:37 pm

TiberiusDidNothingWrong

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Aside from some anti-miracle, I have to assume the series will be delayed for a double- or triple-while before they try for a Series 13. It probably will happen though, after some substantial shake-up. Whether it will be any better after: I can't say, and I'm leaning to the negative - knowing the BBC.

There's always some preservationist drive, that we cannot lose this British treasure that we've had for over 50 years. Yet we all know that we have lost it already, whether we admit it recent or all since the reboot.

13Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 16th February 2019, 8:26 am

TheTimeTraveller

TheTimeTraveller

TiberiusDidNothingWrong wrote:Aside from some anti-miracle, I have to assume the series will be delayed for a double- or triple-while before they try for a Series 13. It probably will happen though, after some substantial shake-up. Whether it will be any better after: I can't say, and I'm leaning to the negative - knowing the BBC.

There's always some preservationist drive, that we cannot lose this British treasure that we've had for over 50 years. Yet we all know that we have lost it already, whether we admit it recent or all since the reboot.

The Great Britain of which Doctor Who was a treasure is the ethnic monoculture of 60 years ago. It's dead and gone. Doctor Who will follow suit. In its place will be the crude idol of the barbarians who have infested and will soon complete the destruction of the UK. For better or worse.

14Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 23rd February 2019, 5:36 pm

Rob Filth

Rob Filth

I doubt it will last beyond Series 12, possible a last splutter of some one-off specials, but it seems doubtful considering that Whittaker and Chibnall seem only too eager to run to the hills afterwards.

It needs resting and despite it's potential cash-cow status, I think the BBC know that and that's why they're currently winding it down and not listening to the fans and their expectations of the series.

I hope that if it is resurrected again it's under a future Labour Government, the programme always seems to prosper under Labour Governments and crash and decline under Tory ones - I'm not sure whether that's because of each political parties relationship to the BBC or not though or even if there is actually a connection. Just a loose observation.

http://www.thefuckingobvious.com

15Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 6:55 pm

burrunjor

burrunjor

Kaled Hygiene wrote:I wish it'd never came back in the first place. I wasn't quite as opposed to a female Doctor as others on here have been, mainly because at least having a female as the Doctor, the unacceptable flirtatious behaviour which so defined the tenth and eleventh Doctor's tenure (and appallingly even Capaldi's) might at last be temporarily curtailed. What I did see of season 13 was bland beyond belief, almost like a weak attempt at imitating the RTD years but with all the brash offensive personalities of that era thankfully missing.

You see this is a way of thinking I just don't get, the I wouldn't have minded a female Doctor.

A female Doctor is not an organic change. It was always going to stand out like a sore thumb. Unless the fans realise that then history will repeat itself after Jodie and we will be in this situation again with the next revival of DW.



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16Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 7:27 pm

Pepsi Maxil

Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master

I hate how cavalier she is about it. You'd think changing genders for the very first time would cause the Doctor a great amount of psychological distress. I mean, he must have used his penis for something.

17Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 8:12 pm

#BeKind

#BeKind

LOL its CLEARLY the same person time to grow up and acept it gammons.  LOL

Will NuWho get a Series 13? SAME-WOMAN

only a complete pathetic bigot would try too pretending otherwhise.

burrunjor wrote:What Hartnell has grown breasts? Has HER dick has fallen off? Is SHE now wearing Susan's or Sarah or Leela's old clothes and make up?
Commander Maxil wrote:I mean, SHE must have used HER penis for something.

SHE. HER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A WOMEN CHARACTER. HER CURRENT PRO NOUNS NEED TO BE RESPECTED- EVEN RETROACTIVLEY Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

https://doctorwhofeministfront.tumblr.com

18Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 8:29 pm

Pepsi Maxil

Pepsi Maxil
The Grand Master

#BeKind wrote:LOL its CLEARLY the same person time to grow up and acept it gammons.  LOL

Will NuWho get a Series 13? SAME-WOMAN

only a complete pathetic bigot would try too pretending otherwhise.

burrunjor wrote:What Hartnell has grown breasts? Has HER dick has fallen off? Is SHE now wearing Susan's or Sarah or Leela's old clothes and make up?
Commander Maxil wrote:I mean, SHE must have used HER penis for something.

SHE. HER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A WOMEN CHARACTER. HER CURRENT PRO NOUNS NEED TO BE RESPECTED- EVEN RETROACTIVLEY Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

So what do they have in common then?

19Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 9:05 pm

iank

iank

It's a parody account, Maxil. Don't bite. Big Grin

Yeah, I don't get these "I don't have a problem with a female Doctor, but..." people either. Sorry, but I DO have a problem with it. It's absurd. If that makes me a terrible sexist, I honestly couldn't care less. The people throwing that kind of sputum around hate me anyway just for being a white hetero male, so I may as well throw some much needed reality in their TRIGGERED faces.
There's a reason Moffat made the female Doctor the punchline in Fatal Death. Because it is, literally, the final punchline of a parody of the character and program.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKNC69I8Mq_pJfvBireybsg

20Will NuWho get a Series 13? Empty Re: Will NuWho get a Series 13? 4th March 2019, 9:46 pm

burrunjor

burrunjor

iank wrote:It's a parody account, Maxil. Don't bite. Big Grin

Yeah, I don't get these "I don't have a problem with a female Doctor, but..." people either. Sorry, but I DO have a problem with it. It's absurd. If that makes me a terrible sexist, I honestly couldn't care less. The people throwing that kind of sputum around hate me anyway just for being a white hetero male, so I may as well throw some much needed reality in their TRIGGERED faces.
There's a reason Moffat made the female Doctor the punchline in Fatal Death. Because it is, literally, the final punchline of a parody of the character and program.

It is a parody account and its fucking excellent. LOL LOL LOL

The picture of the angry face below a username BeKind is enough to make me LOL, but the latest one about Leslie Jones is just comedy gold.

Just to be clear though I wasn't having a go at Kaled Hygene. His reasons, that there would be less romance are fair enough, and I certainly don't think that he is an SJW of course. He seems like a fair, smart guy.

It was more just an excuse to rant in general about the idea of a female Doctor, and people like Bowlestrek, Nerdrotic, Ginger Geek etc and so many others are still open to it, even after the absolute proven disasters of Missy and Jodie.

Why won't they admit its just a bad idea in general? Again I don't hate these guys. Their channels are all good, but face facts the only reason anyone would change the Doctor or the Masters sex is identity politics. Its not a case of identity politics ruined a good idea. The two are eternally linked

Guys like Bowlestrek far from being right wing fanatics, IMO are too lenient. They should just say "this is the character, and we're not fucking changing it because of a bunch of whiny cunts online."

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