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Commander Maxil

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PJW posted this on his twitter. Do you agree or is he talking bollocks?


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Bollocks. He is basing that on the idea of metabolism slowing down with age, which is usually due to physical activity slowing down with age. It's a reductionist view that ignores many biological factors. Yeah, OK, younger people are less likely to be fat but what about Prader Willi syndrome? Some of those poor fuckers get up in the night to eat carpet!

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As a fat bastard I can tell you PJW is talking out of his fucking arse. My guess is that he's simply espousing the hackneyed thought terminating cliches which have been bandied around for decades now. If it was simply a matter of individual responsibility, and nothing to do with multifactorial psychological, genetic or environmental factors, then there wouldn't be so many fat people out there - most of whom maintain control over other aspects of their lives, so it's not just a malaise of the lazy or the over indulgent.

There's a host of medical evidence which says he's wrong. Everyone knows the reductionist reasons why obesity occurs, but lazy fucks like PJW are unable to look further than that. People like that are not interested in why people eat, nor the factors that lead to weight gain. In addition, once people become obese, the odds of regaining a normal weight are almost insurmountable.

A team of researchers at King's College London, found that an obese man has a 1 in 210 chance to get himself to a healthy body weight, which becomes a 1 in 1,290 chance if he’s severely obese. For women, being obese means they have a 1 in 124 chance of attaining a healthy body weight, or a 1 in 677 chance if they have severe obesity.   The study, which has been published in the American Journal of Public Health, tracked the weight of 129,194 men and 149,788 women in the UK from 2004 to 2014.
https://www.sciencealert.com/odds-of-an-obese-person-attaining-a-healthy-weight-are-incredibly-slim-study-finds

If this were simply an issue of general willpower, then there'd be an awful lot of feckless obese people with disastrous, ill-managed lives about. The truth is, there isn't. 62% of the UK population are overweight or obese. The mantra of 'personal responsibility' has failed for 30+ years, and I don't see it succeeding any time soon.

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I don't know the guy, but I'll assume his point is that at age 30 you are expected to be independent and self-sufficient. 30 is a slightly strange number to pick, I figure he's referring to the neoteny of recent generations. I do detect a degree of bullshit, and indeed as Mr. Happy said it's actually harder from a biological perspective to lose weight at that time.

When you're a child you don't really much of any control over your weight - your parents control your diet and indirectly how active you are/can be. If your parents are overfeeding you there isn't much you can do about it, and I feel that intake has more to do with weight problems than expenditure.

Age 16, 18 or whenever you are independent and have control over what you eat and what you do during the day. It is honestly - in the vast majority of cases - 'your' fault if you remain overweight past this point. I don't really care personally but I would suggest such people to either do something about it, or at accept it - the latter meaning you will not be 'offended' by people mentioning your weight.

Speaking from the perspective of one who was overweight as a child but is presently a healthy athletic young adult.

Perhaps I am ill-informed of some medical aspect unique for those that are very overweight, but my best assumption is that the issue is psychological and not biological, human inertia as usual. I wouldn't justify vilifying the overweight but likewise I would think the only logical option for a person 'unable' to lose weight is to accept it.

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For the uninitiated, Paul Jospeh Watson is a conspiracy theorist and reporter for Info Wars: https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet he also stipulated "And by fat I mean not thin."

IIRC, there is brown and white fat and brown fat and... oh just read here rather than me typing it all https://theconversation.com/can-brown-fat-really-help-with-weight-loss-85987

PJW is here https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet

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I avoid 'Personalities' like these as a general rule as they are rarely as intelligent or insightful as the think they are, or their fans think they are. Rather people base their own opinions on what their favourite 'Personality' says, whilst the 'Personality' becomes more and more reassured of their own constant validity - all whilst discouraging independent and intelligent thought.

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PJW does do some good videos, but to be honest he's crossed the arsehole line too many times. I don't think he's quite as bad as Sargon, but he's getting there. Yaron Brook and Stefan Molyneaux are the biggest cunts of them all meanwhile.

This crap about fat people ties into PJWs stupid Ayn Rand crap of I'm just going to write off everyone who is disadvantaged compared to me as being lazy, stupid or whiny, self indulgent "butt hurt" millenial feminists. Right now its funny to laugh at, but we don't want people like that being in power, which is why we really have to reform the left and make it credible again.

People make the mistake of assuming when the likes of PJW have the dominant opinion "oh no NAZIS are going to be in power again" which is of course absurd. However we are going to get more of the austerity, Thatcherite crap, as well as more attacks on the NHS and the Welfare state, with anyone who is poor and dying of heart failure, just being dismissed as lazy bastard who should have made more of his life like PJW, Sargon and Molyneaux.



The best social and political commentators and figures in the media to listen to are John Pilger, Brendan O'Neill, David Wood, Imam Tahwidi, Sam Harris, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Tommy Robinson (not getting into this debate again, but I have to list him.) Maajid Nawaz is also really good most of the time, but some times he can come across as a bit of self promoter (though to be fair they ALL are to some extent.)

Others who are entertaining and have quite good and intelligent opinions about things, but are obviously not proper journalists are Blaire White, Tree of Logic, Chris Ray Gun (though I haven't been as keen on his more recent vids. They're not stupid or anything, just not as funny.), ShoeOneHead and Barbara 4u2c.

PJW has fallen into the arsehole but sometimes he is right category, though to be fair he was always that, but I think it was when he became really popular and he became so tribal about conservatism that his videos became unbelievably cringy to watch like this gem.



PJW, coolest kid on the block and alpha male!

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I think you rely a little too much on Youtube personalities for you info, but I see you've made an effort to expand your media consumption. I was probably reading/watching John Pilger's stuff before you were born (seriously). He has a bent towards conspiracy at times, but is a thorough and diligent journalist. The others seem to be on the pop-intellectual side of the media spectrum. It's like an itinerary Joe Rogan show guests. Not to say that's a bad thing, but they tend to be on the McDonalds side of the intellectual debate, when you might want to look for something a little more Fat Duck.

That said, I think you might enjoy Adam Curtis's work. As it offers a good basis for understanding the ideological foundation for the postmodern world, population control, mass apathy and the simplification of the narrative about militant Islam. Indeed, I challenge you to watch  Bitter Lake with an open mind. I doubt your overall stance will change on Islam (that's not what it's arguing anyway), but you will come out with a more nuanced position, that I can guarantee.

Barabara was on DP the other night. She's okay. But she isn't the brightest spark. I preferred her when she was struggling to get jobs in Hollywood and recalling the attempts by men to get her to do casting couch shit for lousy/non-existent parts in TV shows.


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Sounds like another mouthy cunt to me.

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To be fair it's a fairly petty criticism. The point and the meaning still stand even where the terminology is obviously innacurrate. Obviously the proper term would be 'Oligopoly', or 'Duopoly' if you will. It's almost akin to refuting an argument because the other made a typo.

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I'll take happiness where I can get it. I never claimed to be big or clever LOL

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Not seen a PJW vid in a long while, but I caught sight of this one and it seems quite interesting.



Of course I'm sure that a lot of this is his usual hyperbole, but it does make an interesting point of these stupid champagne socialists who spend more time focusing on pointless, impossible, things like taking down Trump just to make themselves look good, than in fixing the problems at their own front door.

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Barabara was on DP the other night. She's okay. But she isn't the brightest spark. I preferred her when she was struggling to get jobs in Hollywood and recalling the attempts by men to get her to do casting couch shit for lousy/non-existent parts in TV shows.

I had no idea the DP were still going. I thought TJ left it a while ago?

Barbara's popular for obvious reasons. She's quite funny, cute, and has decent opinions about things, but yeah she's obviously not a respected award winning journalist or anything like that.

She's pop politics, but good at what she does.

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DP have kicked on pretty well since the split. The guest list has been decent recently. Quite an eclectic mix of views.

TJ, Paul and Scotty have moved onto a half PPV model for their channel DFF. They're doing okay as well, but they're focussing on monetizing a smaller group of core fans.

I'd say Ben capitalised on the split better than the Kirks. In the end he kept his channel, his format, the segments, improved the quality of the guests and the whole production.

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Commander Maxil

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I liked Paul in the early days but he's always been a bit of a crap journalist. He makes so many mistakes and it's clear that he doesn't actually research things thoroughly most of the time. His videos on Soy and Incels are truly terrible. He also contradicts himself which is never a great sign.


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Doesn't Paul promote that supplement that has soy in it?

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