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1 Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:54 pm

When do you think the revival was at its peak (assuming you don't think it was all shit.)

I'm going to say Matt Smith's early years.

Matt Smith was the best of the New Doctors. IMO none of the other new who Doctors even come close. Matt was naturally eccentric, had the right child like humour, and morally he wasn't a total hypocrite either. I didn't like the lothario aspects of his Doctor however. I'm not sure whether to blame him or Moff for that. Matt in real life seems to be a ladies man, and so I think that bled into his Doctor. Still whether that was him or Moff I don't know, but Moff should have stopped it.

Anyway that aside, I liked Matt's early years a lot. His Doctor was brilliant, the story arcs started out a bit more interesting (even if they went nowhere.) His companions were good and played well off of each other. He had the best individual episodes with the likes of Vincent and the Doctor, and even The Lodger, which is great fun.

His era definitely had a lot of misused potential, but overall I think it holds up, or rather it would have held up had what came next not been so toe curlingly awful. That kind of sours all of new who, which is a shame as Matt Smith really was an amazing Doctor.

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2 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:13 pm

2005-2007

Plenty of watchable stuff from that period. Some I even consider to be classics. Series 1 is the best in terms of consistency but I think Series 3 has some of the best stories the modern series has ever produced. Series 2 has the only decent modern Cybermen episodes and the Girl in the Fireplace is a really strong piece of work. I even liked Love and Monsters.

Early Smith was decent and I remember digging Series 5 at the time.

Series 6 is shite but I think the latter half of Series 7 is fairly enjoyable.


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3 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:55 pm

Erm, I dunno. Series one was good but then two was shite, I enjoyed three but four was poor. The Specials were mostly dire but Season five was pretty great. Six patchy, Seven crap, Eight pathetic and then it was all downhill from there. So, um, before Seven?

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4 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:56 pm

I think we can all agree that it's just gotten worse, can't we?

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5 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:08 pm

The terminal era yet to come.

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6 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:16 pm

All seasons were awful, apart from a good story and an average story which stood out in each run. I don't think it's ever been different.

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7 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:37 pm

Series 5 is definitely the pinnacle of NuWho in my opinion.

Most of the episodes are fairly decent, Matt Smith is on excellent form, Karen Gillan is super cute and compliments Matt's Doctor extremely well, and it wasn't bogged down by all these ridiculously convoluted and horribly unsatisfying story arcs that Moffat introduced from Series 6 onward.

Series 1 is also fairly tolerable, although I'm sure most of you will disagree. Most of the episodes are okayish, and while Eccleston isn't a good Doctor by any stretch of the imagination, he's still far more tolerable than David Tennant. While Rose is an extremely bland and forgettable companion, she really isn't that bad in Series 1. It wasn't until Tennant arrived and Rose became really clingy and obsessive over the Doctor was when she started to really become annoying.

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8 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:12 pm

I agree with burrunjour and deadmanrising.

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9 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:53 am

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Series 5 and 6 were least offensive (although there's still a lot of unlikeable stuff). The introduction of Clara firmly reinforced how unbearable the modern series is.

10 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:24 pm

@DeadManRising wrote:

Series 1 is also fairly tolerable, although I'm sure most of you will disagree.


I agree with you. I think The Empty Child and Parting of the Ways are absolutely brilliant and head and shoulders above the rest of Nuwho. There are a few fun adventures in there, too, like Rose, Aliens of London and Father's Day. What a shame that director Joe Ahearne never worked on the show again. He was as good as Graeme Harper.

Rose is decent in Series 1 but I think that has to do with the fact that she's not with Tennant. She should have left at the end of Parting of the Ways and had the lovely Jo Joyner travel with him instead. They would have made a remarkable pair had Eccleston decided to stay on.


Series 1 is the only Nuwho series I own on DVD so I consider it to be a little more than "fairly tolerable." Don't let Rob find this thread!


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11 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:57 am

Peter Capaldi's my favourite Doctor of the post 2005 era of Doctor Who but the actual stories and plot arcs were too uneven to put any of his era as my favourite.

That's a bit of a tough question for me as to what was:

Not Season 1.
Not Peter Capaldi

Not early David Tennant or late Matt Smith either (The Day of the Doctor to one side).

I don't know, somewhere after David Tennant's first season and before Matt's last?
I tend have individual favourite episodes as opposed to arcs or longer segments and usually the less typical episodes which are scattered everywhere and tend to sit at least slightly more outside the overall arc a bit more often than not (Blink, Midnight, Turn Left, Listen, Heaven Sent - that sort of thing).

Actually, the more I think about it, I give points for trying with some of the overarching ideas but I've yet to come across a definitive one for me yet?



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12 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:00 am

Series 1-4 are pretty good, some episodes don't age well and RTD's soapy narratives and pantomime outcomes drag the stories down at times, but the done-in-ones by Moffat are strong and even RTD can crank out a belter when he's motivated enough.

Series Five is a masterpiece, well, almost, could have done without Rory being cucked left right and centre by Amy. The finale made sense to me, but I can't say much for others.

Series Six is the best worst season of the show...narrative goes off the rails after peaking with the River reveal, but it looks nice and there's a superb done-in-one with "The Girl Who Waited"

Series 7 and 8 are pretty much write-offs, even the episodes with the good ideas are dragged down by unlikeable leads and writing that just feels robotic and drained of all spark.

Series Nine is my favourite Moffat era series, more traditional, captivating serialised stories, Clara acting like a normal companion, and only becomes the centre of attention near the end, and even then it's done in a really engaging way. Hell Bent is the most misunderstood finale of them all.

Series ten is another write-off. Not many good ones in here, everything in between Extremis, Empress of Mars and World Enough and Time are series nadirs.

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13 Re: Favourite Era of New Who on Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:13 pm

In slight controversy, I'd say Series 1 is my favourite. Whether the general quality was superseded is debatable, but it felt isolated. I could at least enjoy it as its own thing, a remake of some form - rather than a continuation and insult to the Classic.

After that point they began shining more light on it being a continuation, usually in such a way as to render lower its reference. Sarah Jane in Series 2 was a start, already changing the subtext and relationship with one of the most noteworthy companions. Then it was forced that all the flaws and discontinuities were relevant over the continuity, which made it much harder to appreciate NuWho on its own merits.

Moffat's Series 5 may have appeared a general apex, but onwards he would draw from the past and corrupt it with increasing tenacity - culminating in the shitfest that made the present.

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