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1 Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:18 pm

Let's have it here, in one place!


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2 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:09 pm

This article I think not only makes a good case against it but sums up a lot of the problems with New Who http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/make-doctor-who-a-black-woman-please-dont/19411#.WJ0JYTuLTIU

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3 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:34 pm

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"But when cultural representation of diversity becomes an end in itself, then it becomes meaningless, a box-ticking exercise that distracts from exploring what stories we want to tell and why."

Well put.

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4 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:40 pm

It could take ten years, but the audience research is still anti on a female Doctor Who.
Actually put individual quirks into each Doctor so if you were to read a script you could actually tell the difference. That could help.
I think a really upper class actress should be the first female Doctor (If it happens) as they are removed from everything else and would suit the alien of The Doctor.
Of course, public appearances and Convention appearances would be a complete car crash. But, not going to lie, I'd like to see that happen! (I'd like to see an Upper Class actress get the job and be a massive PR disaster, than a female Doctor Who. And even then the autocorrect kicked in and wrote "Doctor Ho". Uh oh...)

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5 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:53 pm

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I can't say I want it but I'm not strictly against a female Doctor if they did it for story purposes, to add a new dynamic and bring a different energy and life to the show. The actress would have to be right for the part, though. Anyone who wants a female Doctor "because men have had the role for long enough and it's about time" can piss off.

The show has bigger problems than what sex the person playing the Doctor is.

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6 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:01 pm

You know what? I think it's a bad idea, but I'd watch if they cast Clemence Poesy. She's tops as the borderline alien Elise in The Tunnel, and I actually think she could pull it off.
The likes of Olivia Colman though... fuck me!

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7 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:07 pm

Dick Tater wrote:I can't say I want it but I'm not strictly against a female Doctor if they did it for story purposes, to add a new dynamic and bring a different energy and life to the show. The actress would have to be right for the part, though. Anyone who wants a female Doctor "because men have had the role for long enough and it's about time" can piss off.

The show has bigger problems than what sex the person playing the Doctor is.

IMO no woman could ever do it justice because its a male character. Its like if someone said "say lets get Tom Ellis to play Xena in the remake of that series". Yes from a technical point of view Tom Ellis could play Xena as he is tall, dark, good looking, can play the big action star fine, obviously a man could play the type of hero Xena is, a big Conan style hero, but he would never feel like Xena because Xena is a woman. By default she is a woman as she entered into popular culture as one, all her relationships were from a female perspective, and we as fans identify with her as a woman.

Thus it would never feel like Xena. It might be good, but it just wouldn't mesh. The Doctor is the same. People say "oh he can be anyone" but that's rubbish IMO. All the Doctors clearly have a pattern they follow. They all are mysterious (we still don't know his name), they all prefer to use their minds and find peaceful solutions (though they will use weapons and lethal force if need be.) They also all love travelling, were all asexual in classic who, even physically they all wore Victorian/Edwardian era clothing and had long or big hair.

I remember Tom Baker even said that the Doctor was the most limiting role he ever played as there were so many things he couldn't do or else he wouldn't seem like the Doctor.

There clearly is a pattern to the Doctor and I think that anyone who gets the character, actor or writer should stick within that. Now personally I'd say that much like Xena the Doctors gender is a part of his character. Again its by default as he's been a man for 50 years, we're used to him that way, we identify with him that way, all his relationships have been from that perspective. To make him a woman or genderless after 50 years really IMO would jar and feel out of place. I'd hate it in fact as it would ruin the whole image of the Doctors being the one guy. Its not that a woman couldn't play that type of hero or the hero, just specifically if they played that character it wouldn't mesh the same way that Tom Ellis as Xena wouldn't mesh.

Thing is no one is even suggesting that Tom Ellis should play Xena. I'll tell you its much better being a Xena fan these days. I can actually look forward to speculating who will play her without having to worry about it being a man crowbarred in there for some bullshit agenda.

I've never actually heard any proper, never mind good arguments for it meanwhile. Just either a vague "all change is good", "why not" or abuse against people who don't want it as sexists like Paul Cornell's famous line "anyone who doesn't like their favourite character changing gender is exactly the type of person who would turn on their own family member for changing gender".

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8 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:13 pm

Dick Tater wrote:I can't say I want it but I'm not strictly against a female Doctor if they did it for story purposes, to add a new dynamic and bring a different energy and life to the show. The actress would have to be right for the part, though. Anyone who wants a female Doctor "because men have had the role for long enough and it's about time" can piss off.

The show has bigger problems than what sex the person playing the Doctor is.

What story purposes could there possibly be? People often say this but my mind still boggles. Confused

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9 Re: Female Doctor on Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:59 am

Chances are, I'd loathe it (unless it was someone I already really liked lol).
Not good odds, though...

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10 Re: Female Doctor on Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:50 am

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Rawkuss wrote:The show has bigger problems than what sex the person playing the Doctor is.[/quoWhat story purposes could there possibly be? People often say this but my mind still boggles. Confused
True, bad phrasing there. Thinking about it, a story where the main plot is that the Doctor has gender swapped would be awful. I guess I just meant what I said about a new energy and dynamic, you know, how the Doctor acts and interacts with the companion. Though they could do that by not writing every character in the same way or forcing a badly written romance for teenage fangirls.

Like I said, I don't want a female Doctor, but if the writing doesn't improve then the show sucks regardless. There's so much wrong with the show that the Doctor having a vag isn't going to be the tipping point for me.

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11 Re: Female Doctor on Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:23 pm

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/g/8975810/To+Replace+Peter+Capaldi+as+the+next+Doctor+Who%3F.html

This is pretty representative of the latest odds. I see it isn't just Colman (Maxine Peake also seems to be well in the running).

Also looking a little further down the list are actors who would be far more at home playing the Master (Andy Serkis, Robert Carlyle) and ones who even their agents would be surprised to find playing the Doctor (Rupert Grint!?)


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12 Re: Female Doctor on Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:04 pm

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Tilda Swinton is apparently the new favourite to take the role. Confused
http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/15/tilda-swinton-is-the-new-favourite-to-ride-the-tardis-next-in-doctor-who-6450796/

‘Whovian punters are becoming increasingly convinced the next Doctor will be female, and fingers are currently pointing towards Swinton.’

Michelle Gomez, who plays Missy in the show, Captain America star Hayley Atwell and Sherlock actress Amanda Abbington are other female contenders who fans would like to see in the role.

Suspect Michelle Gomez, who plays Missy in the show... female contenders who fans would like to see in the role. Suspect

Who is putting money on that happening?

I can't see Swinton becoming the Doctor, if Capaldi had to eat shit for being too old, a 56 year old woman isn't going to go down well. It has to be a young guy so fangirls can get wet over him and ship with other characters.

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13 Re: Female Doctor on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:10 pm

Amanda Abbington - can someone find evidence that "fans would like to see" her in the role? I think Missy would be more popular!


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14 Re: Female Doctor on Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:07 pm

Kill me now.

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15 Re: Female Doctor on Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:08 am

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/chibnall-13th-doctor-will-be-cast-in-the-traditional-way-83179.htm

Chibbers says casting will be done the traditional way

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16 Re: Female Doctor on Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:42 pm

How would people feel if the next Doctor was American?

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17 Re: Female Doctor on Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:48 am

I wouldn't really care so long as it was someone appropriate like Jeff Goldblum or Peter MacNicol.

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18 Re: Female Doctor on Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:04 pm

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-02-27/chris-chibnall-on-a-female-doctor-who-nothing-is-ruled-out-but-i-dont-want-the-casting-to-be-a-gimmick

That's Chibnall's thoughts on it

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19 Re: Female Doctor on Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:04 pm

As long as she's got big, firm tits and a hot, perky arse, I'm all for it.


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20 Re: Female Doctor on Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:25 pm

Cunt wrote:As long as she's got big, firm tits and a hot, perky arse, I'm all for it.

You're seal aren't you.

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21 Re: Female Doctor on Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:10 pm

What gave it away? Big Grin

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22 Re: Female Doctor on Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:50 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/03/01/is-garfield-a-boy-how-a-cartoon-cats-gender-identity-sparked-a-war-on-wikipedia/?utm_term=.b7f298f96526

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23 Re: Female Doctor on Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:49 am

I quite like the idea of a female Doctor you can bend over the console and take to Skaro and back.

- "Show me your time column, Master!"

- "I'm going to smash your continuum and do you up the artron, Doctor!"


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24 Re: Female Doctor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:18 am

Maybe that's what Nu Who needs to get its popularity back. Take the crude approach of RTD to its logical extreme and have the next Doctor as Arthur Smith doing his Sid James impression - or if the show needs to appeal to a more youthful audience get someone to do a Robert Askwith impersonation instead.


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25 Re: Female Doctor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:14 pm

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Rawkuss wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/03/01/is-garfield-a-boy-how-a-cartoon-cats-gender-identity-sparked-a-war-on-wikipedia/?utm_term=.b7f298f96526

“He may have been a boy in 1981, but he’s not now,” one editor argued. Why are they still calling him by the male pronoun then?

Also trust these people to take a troll seriously.

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