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51 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 2:44 am

I wonder if they will get them to review Big Finish stuff.

Youth of today wrote:I wus given dis task of like listening to summat called a big finish CD. Like, what the fok is a CD? After me gramps gave me dis spinning machine thing, I put it on and like, woooo, music and shit came out.

Dis story, Spare Parts wus supposed to be like about the Cybermen (foking genedification) and stuff, but it had like no pictures and shit, so it was a bit boring. Had Davison in, who me mom wanks to, so she liked it I bet

2/10- Too much talking, not enough pictures

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52 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 2:57 am

LOL

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53 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 7:55 am

"This new Time Team is the single best thing to have happened in DWM in donkey’s years. If it upsets a bunch of moronic ‘Doctor Who is only for those of us who’ve been there since the proper series’, even better.” That's NOT the issue. The issue is that the vast majority of people you've chosen do not have any real knowledge or understanding of the classic series and thus should not be allowed to whine about the quality of the effects or the slow pacing in an official magazine. I'm sure they can set up a blog on Wordpress and do it on there instead.


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54 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 8:48 am

All I can say is I was right. I said these SJWs like Claudia Boleyn, Whovian Feminism, etc wanted to take it over and they have.

And I said it would not just be the show. It would be every inch of the franchise they would want to take over, and they have. Its conventions, its fandom, the magazine, it all belongs to them now, people who don't actually give a damn about the show or its history.

And yes Iank is right the likes of Gary Russell, Clayton Hickman (who blocked me on twitter. I challenged him to provide a counter argument to me about a female Doctor and not just call me a loser to his sychophants and block me, so he called me insane and then blocked me.)

They are the biggest pieces of shit of them all. The likes of Claudia Boleyn and Whovian Feminism wouldn't have had ANY power over the show. They were spineless, self loathing fanboys who didn't have the balls to stand up to a bunch of keyboard warriors and destroyed a British institution.

They are living proof that a great work of art, created by clever people can be destroyed by a bunch of cynical, talentless shits.

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55 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 9:09 am

I knew Gary Russell was a nasty, spiteful, selfish petty little shit when he, when offered the chance to write for the DWM Tom Baker Celebration Special - a magazine devoted to celebrating his era and finding good things to say about every story - chose City of Death just so he could get to slag off a story everyone else loves. What kind of arrogant shit does that?
That said, I'm still flabbergasted at what utter sellouts all this crowd have become. Did they ever actually like this show, or was everything they wrote just BS for the sake of getting a paycheck? More and more looks like the latter for all of them.

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56 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 9:45 am

From GB:

I think the new Time Team works pretty well. A cross-generational thing might be interesting, but I feel that many readers will bring that voice with them as they read the feature. An 'elder statesman' participant might express surprise, for instance, that 'Time and the Rani's first episode gets a more generous reception from this issues's panellists than "accepted classic" 'Spearhead's does: that's what I felt, anyway, so I was pleased to see fresh readings of very familiar stories. Ditto the pointing out of how little Liz gets to do in that first episode, which I've never really noticed before. It's a bit of a shame that this issue's selection means the team saw one full Eccleston story alongside only an individual episode of Pertwee and McCoy apiece, though.

http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256858&page=5

Can't believe some people on GB are lapping it up

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Excellent point! This is just the same as me going through the 1970s and 1980s being told that "The Gunfighters" was awful ... the finally getting to see it properly in 1988 and saying "Hang on, this is meant to be a comedy ... and it's a rather wonderful one!" Having a new perspective to challenge received wisdom is very important.

Yes ... the whole notion of editing an article on editing had echoes of "Castrovalva". And I think the style changes have been very good for me. After 30 years, I'm terrified that I'm becoming complacent or just re-hashing old material. And when I rehash I get bored, and when I get bored I get lazy, and when I get lazy that's not good for me, or my editors and least of all anybody who migh even be vaguely interested in reading the results!

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57 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 9:48 am

I've told you - sellouts to a man.
Lost all respect for the lot of them.

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58 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 1:23 pm

Sexism, racism and homophobia = bad.

Ageism = good. The old and experienced are just sad bastards who should be put out of their misery.

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59 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Tue May 08, 2018 4:43 pm

@burrunjor wrote:
And yes Iank is right the likes of Gary Russell, Clayton Hickman (who blocked me on twitter. I challenged him to provide a counter argument to me about a female Doctor and not just call me a loser to his sychophants and block me, so he called me insane and then blocked me.)

You have a very nasty habit of being banned by people on Twitter LOL I'm surprised you've got anyone left to stalk. In all seriousness, the act of blocking is a sign of defeat. I stay well clear of social media and fan forums, the Hive being the obvious exception. I might break up with Doctor Who and give my collection to charity. That way kids can start their collection and experience the joys of proper who.


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60 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 2:01 am

How many of you even buy the rag anymore?

If anything, this may lead to new fanzines which were often wayyyyyyy better than DWM.

I had hoped that GB would be against it, but it seems most of us old folk left. I quit as I didn't give a flying fuck what a yank thought about UK TV, and was sick to death of them telling us how it should be.

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61 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 2:05 am

Bought maybe two in the last ten years, the last of which was 4 years ago (the big poll one). It's just too New Who and BF centric, and I despise the former and have little interest in the latter.

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62 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 2:11 am

My one hope in life is all the shit the BBC is doing now, the bullying Eccelstone mensions, the sexism of Moffat, the firing of staff under strange circamstances, and some of the dodgy financial dealings the show is involved with according to Private Eye all come out in the end, and give fandom the royal shitting on they deserve. Much like how fans of Jimmy Saville had.

That and any sense of American culture or influence in the brand is expundged.

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63 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 2:58 am

Tell us more about these dodgy financial dealings, I haven't heard about this. Big Grin

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64 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 3:30 am

Memory is a bit iffy, but I recall they mentioned something about financial mismanagement and going very over budget. Was quite a while ago now. The Eye did also really lay into Moffat`s management and apparent anger issues quite a few times.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/24/private-eye-on-bbc-doctor-who-and-steven-moffat/

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/20/private-eye-on-the-doctor-who-bust-up/

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65 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 3:36 am

Private Eye- reprinted from reddit wrote:As Doctor Who fans await regeneration of their hero into a heroine under an all-new production team, similarly epochal changes have been afoot at the programme's official periodical, Doctor Who Magazine, published by comics specialist Panini on licence from BBC Worldwide.

Irked by the increasing independence of the title and its willingness to allow contributors to criticise Worldwide's hunger to cash in on the series with all manner of toys, mugs, clothes and other gewgaws, the corporation's commercial arm seized on anti-Brexit and Trump comments by interviewees as evidence of political bias in the title. This is a strict no-no for BBC magazines, and Worldwide instigated a full inquiry, as well as insisting that all staff and freelancers must undergo a training course.

Editor Tom Spilsbury also had a falling-out with BBC Wales, which produces Doctor Who, after daring to be critical of the little-seen BBC3 spin-off Class, and in the summer he took a pay-off and left the magazine.

While Worldwide hoped to see a young, possibly female editor appointed to bring the title back into tune with the TV series, Panini instead appointed the distinctly retro Marcus Hearn, known for his books on Hammer horror films, Thunderbirds and a history of saucy seaside photographs. The company has also set about slashing the magazine's budget, which means that several long-running columns are being axed.

As a result, the current issue's 87th instalment of "A History of Doctor Who in 100 Objects" will be the last in the series. It does, however, contain an extra-special message for observant readers. Writer and some-time Dalek operator Nicholas Pegg has crafted the entire thing as an acrostic, with the first letters of each sentence forming the words: "PANINI AND BBC WORLDWIDE ARE CUNTS."

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66 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 4:15 am

Ah yes, I remember that now. Yup, looks like Pegg knew what he was talking about...

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67 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 8:14 am

might break up with Doctor Who and give my collection to charity. That way kids can start their collection and experience the joys of proper who

Well I don't want you to not give anything away to charity, but at the same time I wouldn't dump Classic Who. That's what these bastards want. They want to smear all of Doctor Who with their shit and they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Terry Nation, JNT, Bob Holmes, Barry Letts, Jon Pertwee, William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, their lives work is being smeared by a bunch of bigoted, anti men twats, who are doing their best to make sure that their crap is what people think of when the name Doctor Who is mentioned.

I say no. I say rather than give up, we persevere until this shit fest is over and then in a few years time we will get a proper sequel to classic Who that ignores the new one and consigns it to where it belongs, the ash heap of history!

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68 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 8:25 am

How many of you even buy the rag anymore?

Last one I bought was in 2015, but that was only because they had Ingrid Oliver looking cute as Osgood on the cover (to be fair when does she not look cute.)

I outright refuse to give these cunts any money anymore. They are traitors and sellouts the lot of them.

They aren't even just bootlickers to the new version of Doctor Who anymore. By hiring Claudia Boleyn they've proved that. Claudia Boleyn said some unbelievable things about the entire Steven Moffat era. She accused him of being a sexist, a homophobe, an ableist etc.

You might as well have Rob Filth reviewing New Who LOL. If anything what he's said about it isn't as bad, as aside from calling its makers cunts, all he did was slag its stories. Claudia accuses the show of promoting sexual assault. I mean you're actually going to have this person review your own series in your own magazine that the people who work on the series work on? What happens when they get her to review a Moffat episode? "Here our resident Who expert accuses the show of promoting rape. Now an interview with the man who wrote that episode" LOL.







They don't care however as they are so intimidated by this vile ideology that they will make concessions to it, even when that means shooting themselves in the foot. Its pathetic.

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69 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 9:00 am

Fuck, I might actually buy the old rag if they hired Rob.
Let's hear what some real fans have to say, eh DWM?

lol I know, not a chance. Big Grin

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70 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 11:42 am

I would pay good money to read a Rob and Rani rant any day. We should do a Hive convention at a pub where the entrance fee is a few pints for our duo and a couple of rounds of pork scratching. It would be more entertaining than anything BBC could shit out, that is for sure.

Be cool if Ian Levine could come too.

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71 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 12:22 pm

@Genkimonk wrote:I would pay good money to read a Rob and Rani rant any day. We should do a Hive convention at a pub where the entrance fee is a few pints for our duo and a couple of rounds of pork scratching. It would be more entertaining than anything BBC could shit out, that is for sure.

Be cool if Ian Levine could come too.

Maybe Who needs its own Arsenal fan tv Big Grin ?

Chibnall out!

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72 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 12:41 pm

Arsehole fan?

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73 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 5:53 pm

If we go the Arsenal Fan TV route do we get to fly a plane towing a fake TARDIS over BBC television centre, with "Chibbers out!" daubed up its side?


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74 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 6:31 pm

@Mott1 wrote:If we go the Arsenal Fan TV route do we get to fly a plane towing a fake TARDIS over BBC television centre, with "Chibbers out!" daubed up its side?

Good thinking, blud/fam.

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75 Re: New [old] Editor For Doctor Who Magazine on Wed May 09, 2018 8:22 pm

@burrunjor wrote:
How many of you even buy the rag anymore?

Last one I bought was in 2015, but that was only because they had Ingrid Oliver looking cute as Osgood on the cover (to be fair when does she not look cute.)

I outright refuse to give these cunts any money anymore. They are traitors and sellouts the lot of them.

They aren't even just bootlickers to the new version of Doctor Who anymore. By hiring Claudia Boleyn they've proved that. Claudia Boleyn said some unbelievable things about the entire Steven Moffat era. She accused him of being a sexist, a homophobe, an ableist etc.

You might as well have Rob Filth reviewing New Who LOL. If anything what he's said about it isn't as bad, as aside from calling its makers cunts, all he did was slag its stories. Claudia accuses the show of promoting sexual assault. I mean you're actually going to have this person review your own series in your own magazine that the people who work on the series work on? What happens when they get her to review a Moffat episode? "Here our resident Who expert accuses the show of promoting rape. Now an interview with the man who wrote that episode" LOL.







They don't care however as they are so intimidated by this vile ideology that they will make concessions to it, even when that means shooting themselves in the foot. Its pathetic.

She's soooo pretty!

She's surpringly tolerable although I don't agree with many of points. I really don't like Moffat but I'd hardly smear him by labelling him as a sexist. I can understand to some extent her fustrations at the portrayal of the lesbian character in Sherlock but the rest of her complaints seem pretty thin. I could call Moffat many things but a misogynist isn't one of them.


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