Hilarious Youtube Drama

I know not as many people here are fans of the youtube "skeptic community" or whatever you want to call it but this is funny and I think an important lesson to us all.

Recently PJW started promoting this black woman called Candace Owens as a "red pilled conservative". Now it turns out that this same woman had a doxxing website which if it had gone ahead could have threatened all of us here, as it was designed to doxx anyone who said mean words online, and until a few weeks ago she still had the website up!



Since then PJW and this woman have attempted to double down and ironically use identity politics "everyone is scared of her because she is a black conservative woman" to silence her critics. Of course nothing can top this shit show where Candace debated Blaire White. Seriously watch this its a train wreck of epic proportions.



Now the reason I feel this is important and not just funny, silly youtube drama is that it demonstrates 2 important things about our society.

1/ Sadly EVERYONE has a soft bigotry of low expectations towards dark skinned people. As someone who was a centrist, I must admit I did used to think it was just the SJW's who had that attitude (and they do with this we can trash Christianity, Scientology all we want, as they are religions practised mostly by white people, but oh no ALL criticism of Islam a religion mostly practised by dark skinned people is deemed racist?)

However here we can see the right are really no better. As soon as a black woman who is a conservative joins their side they treat her as something special because she's black and don't care about her past, and even focus in on the identity politics part of it "Red Pill BLACK". Treat dark skinned people like people! That means not judging them for the colour of their skin of course, but holding them accountable for their actions the same way you would a white person.

2/ It really is best to be a centrist. Not that I was ever on the right, but I did sympathise a bit with the right more than the left, only because the left were the bigger threat to free speech.

Here with Candace however you can see a similar tribal mentality emerge. "Don't say anything bad about PJW because he had you on his channel, MUH conservatism". If the right were in power they'd have the same you're either with us or against us, don't attack our darlings, crap that the left have with people like Anita Sarkeesian.

Everyone's a cunt, and cuntery gets more pronounced all the time.

I definitely think centerist is best. The economic policies of the left fail. Unrestrained capitalism is just as bad as the extreme alternative. Look at the African nations, they were given loans from the West in order for opening up trade with other countries when they had nothing to trade. So they buy a load of American goods with money loaned from American institutions at high-interest rates and get fucked over and out. Alternatively, S.Korea went the way of state capitalism and they have been massively economically robust.

On the social side, Communist regimes have the longest life expectancies because they invest so heavily in healthcare - that doesn't excuse the massive human rights atrocities. But it leads me to think that politically, I am a Liberal. I don't really see the point in labelling myself, though. Marxism is only interesting from a cultural and historical and philosophical point of view.

Laissez-faire economic models are also very robust.

China, socialist but moving more right-wing/capitalist in terms of economics.

Mr. Happy wrote:I definitely think centerist is best. The economic policies of the left fail. Unrestrained capitalism is just as bad as the extreme alternative. Look at the African nations, they were given loans from the West in order for opening up trade with other countries when they had nothing to trade. So they buy a load of American goods with money loaned from American institutions at high-interest rates and get fucked over and out. Alternatively, S.Korea went the way of state capitalism and they have been massively economically robust.

On the social side, Communist regimes have the longest life expectancies because they invest so heavily in healthcare - that doesn't excuse the massive human rights atrocities. But it leads me to think that politically, I am a Liberal. I don't really see the point in labelling myself, though. Marxism is only interesting from a cultural and historical and philosophical point of view.

Laissez-faire economic models are also very robust.

Whilst I tend to call myself a socialist, in a way I think that we should take the best bits from various social systems.

Capitalism is better for industrialising a country. Any country that tries to jump from poverty to socialism is going to stay poor. Even Lenin wanted to bring capitalism to industrialise Russia before moving to socialism. However it cannot be denied that there are many socialist policies that are better. For instance the NHS is better than any private health service. I for one am eternally grateful that we brought in a more left wing Prime Minister after the second world war.

It baffles me as to why people get so tribal with politics? I can understand it with religion in a way, as when its a religion you believe in the supernatural, a deity, but with politics? Why get so attached to one system?

You don't have to agree with every single aspect of a party, or a political speaker, the way you do with a holy figure (if you believe in god.)

Having said all of that, whilst the right is tribal, the regressive left is a bigger danger right now. The left is a bigger threat to free speech. Mad conservatives are not going to get me fired from my job for saying something they don't agree with.

The regressive left also wants to take over every aspect of our lives too.

What you can and can't say, who you can be friends with, the education system (both schools AND Universities are completely taken over by their shit.) Even your hobbies and interests like Sci Fi, Comic Books, Video Games, and of course Doctor Who.

Of course a large part of that is undoubtedly because the right doesn't have the institutional power of the regressive left.

Even though we have a right wing government, the mainstream media is obviously on the regressive left's side (same goes for America too, where the MSM have tried to sabotage Trump since before he was in office.)

Still I suppose we are really unlucky in the UK though in that thanks to our Tory government we have the worst aspects of heartless right wing politics to deal with in austerity, and the bedroom tax, but thanks to the SJW's strangle hold on our popular culture, and mainstream media we also have the worst of emotional, irrational, left wing politics to deal with too, like third wave feminism, identity politics, and the pointless need for representation in all areas. (Except for the really shitty jobs for some weird reason?)

burrunjor wrote:Whilst I tend to call myself a socialist, in a way I think that we should take the best bits from various social systems.

Agreed, inflexibility should never be seen as a virtue.

Capitalism is better for industrialising a country. Any country that tries to jump from poverty to socialism is going to stay poor. Even Lenin wanted to bring capitalism to industrialise Russia before moving to socialism. However it cannot be denied that there are many socialist policies that are better. For instance the NHS is better than any private health service. I for one am eternally grateful that we brought in a more left wing Prime Minister after the second world war.

Marx praised capitalism and saw it as a necessary precursor for a socialist society so it shouldn't surprise me that Lenin wanted to industrialise Russia. They were a massively backward feudal state at that point. Although, I seem to remember Lenin wanting to skip a stage of history against the advice of Trotsky and Plekhanov. It seems a bit contradictory to me.

Clement Attlee bringing in the welfare state is indeed a great achievment. Oddly, it was the Tories that legalised trade unions in 1824.

It baffles me as to why people get so tribal with politics? I can understand it with religion in a way, as when its a religion you believe in the supernatural, a deity, but with politics? Why get so attached to one system?

Same reason people get tribal about football, I suppose, wanting to feel part of a family or something bigger?

You don't have to agree with every single aspect of a party, or a political speaker, the way you do with a holy figure (if you believe in god.)

Agreed.

Having said all of that, whilst the right is tribal, the regressive left is a bigger danger right now. The left is a bigger threat to free speech. Mad conservatives are not going to get me fired from my job for saying something they don't agree with.

Between Liberals, Socialists, Anarchists, Postmodernists, Communists, and more, I think the left is more splintered personally.

The regressive left also wants to take over every aspect of our lives too.

What you can and can't say, who you can be friends with, the education system (both schools AND Universities are completely taken over by their shit.) Even your hobbies and interests like Sci Fi, Comic Books, Video Games, and of course Doctor Who.

Of course a large part of that is undoubtedly because the right doesn't have the institutional power of the regressive left.

How did you arrive at that conclusion and what do you think the reasons for it are?

Even though we have a right wing government, the mainstream media is obviously on the regressive left's side (same goes for America too, where the MSM have tried to sabotage Trump since before he was in office.)

Sorry, but I just don't agree with that. Especially, as Murdoch owns most of the papers over here and Sky news. Then the BBC are constantly being accused of being left-wing by the government and right-wing by Labour

Still I suppose we are really unlucky in the UK though in that thanks to our Tory government we have the worst aspects of heartless right wing politics to deal with in austerity, and the bedroom tax, but thanks to the SJW's strangle hold on our popular culture, and mainstream media we also have the worst of emotional, irrational, left wing politics to deal with too, like third wave feminism, identity politics, and the pointless need for representation in all areas. (Except for the really shitty jobs for some weird reason?)

I agree with that, mostly, but I don't usually here people talking about SJWs or third wave feminism in my day today life. Only on the forums and certain parts of social media.

This, for example, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37875695 just seems like a different world to me.

How did you arrive at that conclusion and what do you think the reasons for it are?

Sorry, but I just don't agree with that. Especially, as Murdoch owns most of the papers over here and Sky news. Then the BBC are constantly being accused of being left-wing by the government and right-wing by Labour

Well that's the interesting thing you see is that the worst of right wing and left wing politics in many ways come from the same place.

You see the bastards at the top like George Soros who LOVE the current corrupted capitalist system also love identity politics because it drives a wedge between the masses.

Rather than working together to try and bring about positive changes and tackle the real driving cause of inequality in our society, class. The working class are instead fighting each other over the most trivial bullshit like white male privilege, gender pronouns etc.

Why do you think George Soros funds things like BLM, Antifa, and the woman's march? Out of the goodness of his former Nazi heart? Nope its splinter the left and use them for his own ends and like idiots the left are doing it.

Thus we get the mixture of both the worst aspects of right wing and left wing politics. The crooked bastards at the top still benefit from an unfair system, whilst the hysterical, emotional. divisive left keeps us fighting.

I agree with that, mostly, but I don't usually here people talking about SJWs or third wave feminism in my day today life. Only on the forums and certain parts of social media.

Well you don't but that doesn't mean that they don't have an influence. I used to think SJW's was just a thing online, but it really isn't.

Take a look at the state of our education system.



Elite School Teaches White Kids They Are Racist

Race and Privilege Plan

Oxford University Told Eye Contact Is Racist

Then of course there is the state of major forms of entertainment too.

Doctor Who was a huge, mainstream show, and their whining completely influenced and destroyed it. Ditto Comic Books.

Here take a look at this.



What the hell does feminism have to do with Supergirl? Just because she's a female hero? So what? Batman is a male hero, is he going to have to become an MRA, who never shuts up about how hard it is for men?

That's how it infects everywhere you go. At work you have to toe the line, at Uni it gets injected into every course, kids are getting taught they were born racist because they are white, if you just want to watch a superhero, sci fi show like DW, it now has to be bombarded with anti white men, SJW crap.

They are a cancer.

KEY POINT - Recent trends in media ownership and control suggest that the number of companies controlling global mass media has significantly shrunk in recent years. Bagdikian (2004) notes that in 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the USA, but by 2004 media ownership was concentrated in seven corporations.

Curran (2003) notes that ownership of British newspapers has always been concentrated in the hands of a few powerful ‘press barons’, e.g. in 1937 four men owned nearly one in every two national and local daily newspapers sold in Britain. Today, seven powerful individuals dominate the ownership of British national daily and Sunday newspapers.

The content of commercial terrestrial television is mainly controlled by one company, ITV plc, whilst access to satellite, cable and digital television in Britain is generally controlled by two companies – News Corp, (owned by Rupert Murdoch) which owns BSkyB, and Virgin Media (owned by Richard Branson).

https://revisionworld.com/a2-level-level-revision/sociology/mass-media-0/ownership-and-control-media

The monopolies can only be bad