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1 Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:38 am

I've brought this up before, but still how many people here are fans of the pilot of the future?

IMO Dan Dare is one of the greatest works of science fiction in any medium. Its no exaggeration to say that modern sci fi in Britain basically comes from Dan Dare. Doctor Who, Thunderbirds, Blake's 7 there is so much of Dan Dare in all of them.

I just finished all of the 70's stories and I've read almost every story from the 50's too. Sadly the 80's and 60's stuff is very hard to get right now, though if anyone knows anything about where to get them I would REALLY appreciate that.

I've also read the Grant Morrison 90's series, but IMO its utter shit. It is to Dan Dare what Death in Heaven is to Doctor Who. Stay away!

There is also an audio series by Big Finish which is really good too.

Its just such a shame that Dan Dare is so overlooked nowadays. Everyone from Terry Nation to Stephen Hawking was inspired by it, yet to modern audiences its almost completely forgotten.

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2 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:21 pm

Loved Dan Dare when I was younger, got quite a bit of Eagle annuals.

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3 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:24 pm

@Zarius wrote:Loved Dan Dare when I was younger, got quite a bit of Eagle annuals.

Great, and you're younger aren't you Zarius? Aren't you in your 20's? Sorry for prying LOL, its just good to hear that there are more young Dan Dare fans out there.

The 70's stuff was brilliant too. It came out in two volumes recently. Its not like the original, but its quite an interesting sequel. I just wish I could get more of the 80's stuff.

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4 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:58 pm

I'm in my mid-thirties actually, rofl, but I read a lot of Eagle via old comics in charity shops and in school libraries around the nineties.

Wasn't there a cartoon? I remember reading about it.

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5 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:11 pm

@Zarius wrote:I'm in my mid-thirties actually, rofl, but I read a lot of Eagle via old comics in charity shops and in school libraries around the nineties.

Wasn't there a cartoon? I remember reading about it.

Ah okay well near enough LOL.

Yeah there was a cartoon in the 00's but it wasn't that good. The voices were kind of weak, and I didn't really like the animation that much.

The Big Finish audios are great though. The guy playing the Mekon is a real stand out.

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6 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:24 pm

In a recent interview for SFP-NOW over at scifipulseradio.com B7 Media’s Andrew Mark Sewell opened up about various projects that he’s had a hand in.

During the interview the creative producer talked about his efforts to get Blake’s 7 rebooted. First at Sky Television and then with Syfy.

Sewell also talks about his love of all things pulp. Specifically Dan Dare and Eagle Comics.

The interview also talks about the recent Dan Dare Audio series, which B7 has been producing and releasing through Big Finish audio.

You can listen to this interview in full using the audio, which has been embedded below.

http://www.scifipulse.net/b7-medias-andrew-mark-sewell-talks-blakes-7-reboot-dan-dare/

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7 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:25 pm

Been meaning to try some Dan Dare at some point, I am vaguely aware of it. It's supposed to have influenced Terry Nation. Doing a Hitchcock marathon at the moment, though.

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8 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:45 pm

Rawkuss wrote:Been meaning to try some Dan Dare at some point, I am vaguely aware of it. It's supposed to have influenced Terry Nation. Doing a Hitchcock marathon at the moment, though.

It had a massive influence on Terry Nation and Kit Pedler and Gerry Davies too.

The first Dan Dare story Voyage to Venus sees Dan and his friends land on a jungle planet where there two races. The evil, logical Treens who are based on the Nazis, think they are the master race, round people up into concentration camps etc. The Treens also live in a metal city, surrounded by a lake of monsters.

The other race the Therons are blonde pacifists who refuse to fight the Treens because of a previous terrible war with them. Dan however shames the Therons into helping him and they destroy the Treens power source.

Another story called Reign of the Robots sees Dan and his friends return to earth after 10 years only to find London in ruins and deserted. They discover that in their absence The Treens have conquered the earth and wiped out most of humanity. The Treens round people up into work camps and police them with the aid of robot servants. Dan and his team find out that the robots are controlled through a speaker the Treens have and defeat them by giving them orders to turn on each other.

Another Dan Dare story is about an evil super computer called Orak!

Then of course there is the leader of the Treens the Mekon who inspired Davros both in character and design and at one point even attempted to exterminate his old Treens after he had created a new and improved race of Treens.

It also inspired Gerry Anderson, David Bowie and even Stephen Hawking who said his entire love of space and cosmology comes from Dan Dare!

I can't recommend it enough. There are about 6 different versions of it. The original 50's-60's version. The 2000 AD 70's series, the 80's-90's series, the Grant Morrison 90's mini series, the Garth Ennis 00's miniseres and Spaceship Away.

In some ways I think the various different versions of Dan Dare are comparable in quality to the various different versions of Doctor Who.

50's-60's Dan Dare is like Classic Who. The original and the best, a brilliant, imaginative and humanistic series at its core. Also classic Dan Dare much like Old Who had long stories too. Several strips in Dan Dare made up one story unlike other comics. In fact usually a whole years worth of strips made up on adventure.

70's Dan Dare was kind of like the RTD era of Doctor Who. Its good fun, the stories are great for the most part, but both make huge deviations from the source material. Interestingly its in exactly the same way. The main hero is made more angry modern. The original Dan was very much a stiff upper lip British gentlemanly hero and he was completely asexual, whilst the 70's Dan wore a leather jacket, was angry, killed his foes, had a love interest etc. Also the 70's Dan Dare had shorter stories too just like the New Who.

80's Dan Dare meanwhile is kind of like the Matt Smith era. Both kept up some things from the RTD era, 70's series but I feel they tried to be closer to the original whilst still updating it. Matt was obviously more like a classic Doctor in terms of how he acted and dressed, whilst in the 80's Dan is more of the stiff upper lip chap we know and love.

Grant Morrison's Dan Dare is like the Capaldi era. Its utter crap and indeed its crap for the same reasons. Both undermine the main villains, the Daleks, the Cybermen, the Treens all utterly useless in those versions. Both also undermine the main hero by making him useless and do ridiculous things like shoot unarmed time lords and blow up London. Both also add a sexual element between the hero and the villain, the Mekon and Dan, the Master and the Doctor in an effort to make it seem edgy and adult, but it just makes it seem infantile.

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9 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:20 pm

There's some new Dan Dare comics on the way: http://downthetubes.net/?p=38900

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10 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:23 pm

@burrunjor wrote:
Rawkuss wrote:Been meaning to try some Dan Dare at some point, I am vaguely aware of it. It's supposed to have influenced Terry Nation. Doing a Hitchcock marathon at the moment, though.

It had a massive influence on Terry Nation and Kit Pedler and Gerry Davies too.

Thanks for the background, I read the bit about the influence on Terry in that book about him, makes sense Gerry was a fan too. I think Peter Haining said this is one of the reasons that DW kept getting mislabeled as a children's programme. SF was in comic books and they were for kids. Plus people were snobby about the whole good vs bad and alien emperors thing.

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11 Re: Any Dan Dare Fans? on Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:14 pm

Rawkuss wrote:There's some new Dan Dare comics on the way: http://downthetubes.net/?p=38900

YES! Been waiting for this for a long while. I can't wait.

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