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51 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:27 pm


I think its funny how the person in the link you shared is trying to say that this happened because he is a Trump supporter, yet all of the Islamic attacks have NOTHING to do with Islam.

Where did Trump say go and kill Muslims, go and shoot up a school?

I'll tell you where Muhammed said to kill all non believers, and where he said for his followers to martyr themselves.



I am worried about the far right, but I can have a clear conscious about its rise for the following reasons.


1/ I haven't undermined left wing politics by associating it with bigotry towards white men.

2/ I have criticised Islam in a fair and reasonable way, by you know actually saying what's wrong with it, and offering peaceful solutions to reforming it, without banning it or tarring all Muslims with the same brush.

3/ I haven't tried to tar all reasonable critics of Islam as Nazis and shut them down which in turn has led to a real bitter hatred against all Muslims from the population and ironically more support to hard line racists.

I support people like Sam Harris here



But when you make sure that people like Sam Harris are associated with the far right, you give them more credibility ironically and allow them to gain greater support.

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52 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:32 am

Triggered.

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53 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:00 pm

@Boofer wrote:Triggered.

Really you still keeping up with this crap even after Mike and Penny have gone. Hmm thought you'd gained some perspective.

I'm not offended. I find it quite funny when you look at the mental gymnastics in this thread. No one has addressed my criticisms of Islam, so they instead have to constantly say that I want to kill all Muslims, I want acid thrown on them, NONE of which I have ever said.

You lot just have to keep pretending that I have said and encouraged that rather than address anything I have actually said. Why go through these gymnastics for Islam? You'd never do the same for any other religion or ideology?

Its quite fascinating in a way. Reminds me of that bit in the Simpsons when Marge tries to tell the guy she wants coffee and he just hears beer. Someone says something valid about why Islam is a dangerous faith and everyone just hears " I WANT TO KILL ALL MUSLIMS, I WANT TO KILL ALL MUSLIMS!"

Just so you know you look like Ben Affleck. Don't be Ben Affleck.

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54 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:06 am

@MikeStuchbery_

Horrific. Utterly horrific. Hope those who spend so much time attacking Muslim Britons over grooming gangs take this opportunity to condemn it vociferously among their own.

https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/978679195319619584

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/chichester-paedophile-child-abuse-reverends-church-of-england-diocese-sex-offenders-a8270601.html

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55 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Tue May 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Oh look, Muslims are forcibly stopped from speaking at a free speech rally, it's almost as if it was nothing to do with free speech whatsoever!

https://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/free-speech-not-for-muslims.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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56 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Tue May 08, 2018 1:42 pm

Mr. Happy wrote:Oh look, Muslims are forcibly stopped from speaking at a free speech rally, it's almost as if it was nothing to do with free speech whatsoever!

https://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/free-speech-not-for-muslims.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Of course he was. Robinson's thug supporters were there to bash him with their floor-scuffed knuckles.

Lennon pretends to be some kind of classic liberal these days. I'm not one for guilt by association, but it does appear he still attracts the company of flag-worshipping, 'no surrender' bellends.

If there's to be a genuine free speech movement in this country, it probably has to decouple itself from the likes of Robinson and Milo. People can and should still support their right to speak, of course, just not have them co-opt the movement to push their own ideological agendas

There is a problem with free speech in this country, but any campaign will only succeed if it's backed by those more interested in free speech than pushing their politics.

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57 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 9:01 am

@Boofer wrote:
Mr. Happy wrote:Oh look, Muslims are forcibly stopped from speaking at a free speech rally, it's almost as if it was nothing to do with free speech whatsoever!

https://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/free-speech-not-for-muslims.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Of course he was. Robinson's thug supporters were there to bash him with their floor-scuffed knuckles.

Lennon pretends to be some kind of classic liberal these days. I'm not one for guilt by association, but it does appear he still attracts the company of flag-worshipping, 'no surrender' bellends.

If there's to be a genuine free speech movement in this country, it probably has to decouple itself from the likes of Robinson and Milo. People can and should still support their right to speak, of course, just not have them co-opt the movement to push their own ideological agendas

There is a problem with free speech in this country, but any campaign will only succeed if it's backed by those more interested in free speech than pushing their politics.

Yeah agreed. Tommy is a hero IMO, but there was no excuse for what happened. Only thing I will say is that you can't blame the organisers of the march who DID book Ali Dawah. Its not their fault if some of the thugs got out of hand.

The thugs should be arrested and charged for assault (and I hope they are.) Tommy also rather than hiding should address this head on. By trying to make out that it was Dawah's friend who started it, he is letting his side down.

TBH I think all of these freedom of speech rallies are stupid. Its like that disasterous Killroy event that petered out. If you want to have a debate with an anti SJW, just approach them online. Something like this is always going to lead to a punch up. Particularly when it is so ridiculously one sided. Okay they invited Ali Dawah, but he was the only one there on the opposite side.

What did they think was going to happen? Imagine if Tommy Robinson had been the only speaker at an SJW event. He would have been attacked too. Its a stupid and dishonest idea to try and pretend that what is basically a one sided political conference is one for everyone.

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58 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 11:44 am

Malaysia is having its election today. Despite Islam not being the original religion of the people, and being heavily populated by persons of different faiths, only muslims can stand for election. WTF! The British really left Malaysia to become a corrupted third world country.

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59 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 12:26 pm

@Genkimonk wrote:Malaysia is having its election today. Despite Islam not being the original religion of the people, and being heavily populated by persons of different faiths, only muslims can stand for election. WTF! The British really left Malaysia to become a corrupted third world country.


So, are you implying Islamism is a reaction to historical colonialism?

What about the culpability of the Saudis? They spread Wahhabism and Salafism via oil-funded madrassas all over the eastern world, and yet this is all about post-colonial abandonment?

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60 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 12:42 pm


No, what I am saying is that despite leaving Malaysia in the manner we did (conquered by the Japanese on bicycles no less), Islam spread and dominated the political landscape and ran it into the ground.

My ex girlfriend was Chinese Malaysian. Her father told me of growing up after the war and how the different ethnic groups lived in cooperation. As Islam spread, it turned the population against each other and now runs by divide and rule politics.

Malaysia is odd as it has two legal systems. They are now trying to impose the Islamic system on everyone.

Speaking as an academic, I strongly feel islam just is not compatible with democracy. Turkey was a prime example. It did well, but in the end, all middle eastern democracies fall.

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61 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 1:20 pm

A controversial fake news law was also recently introduced, which critics say could be used by the authorities to muffle dissent.

The article also talks about corruption in Malaysian politics http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44036178

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62 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 3:58 pm

The former oposition leader was forced to have a sodomy check and was charged with sodomy when he was coming pretty close to beating the current corrupt fuckwit.


He's apparently so corrupt that even the former PM is running against him.

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63 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed May 09, 2018 5:11 pm

Is that Karpel Singh, he is a Sikh isn't he? His son Ramakarpel is also a MP for Bukit Gelugor
Incumbent and is also Sikh I believe. How does that square with what you said about only Muslims being able to run for office?

Malaysian GE: Okay to vote non-Muslims, but PM, defence minister must stay Muslims, says mufti

https://www.todayonline.com/world/malaysian-ge-okay-vote-non-muslims-pm-defence-minister-must-stay-muslims-says-malaysian-mufti

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64 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Thu May 10, 2018 1:52 am

No, I am talking about Anwar, and I asked again and she said only muslims can be Prime Minister, so maybe it's an office thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Ibrahim_sodomy_trials

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65 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun May 13, 2018 4:03 pm

Its Paris this time.

Shit really is going to hit the fan soon. I worry about there being a civil war in Europe, I'm not joking.

Its such a shame as well, as it could easily be avoided.

As I have said many times before, no one reasonable is saying that all Muslims are evil or that they need to be kicked out of the country. That would lead to persecution of innocents, and would push just about every regular Muslim into the arms of radicals for protection, and would lead to non Muslims who would want to defend their neighbours, work mates, friends etc fighting the police on the streets.

It would be anarchy and is not a practical solution.

However at the same time we cannot deny that there are problems with Islam that aren't there with other religions. Its not got anything to do with the race of people following it ( a white Muslim berk was recently arrested because he planned to drive a truck into a shopping centre in London I believe.)

All religions are not the same, and Islam has its own unique set of troubles.

Its holy book is far more violent than the Christian one, and whilst the Old Testament is as vile as the Quran, at least its inconsistent and has been reformed. The Quran however is streamlined, and the definitive word of god, and it promises a happy afterlife to martyrs so its obviously going to be more dangerous.

Its bigoted, medevil aspects need purged with the aid of reformers, we do need to limit immigration from Islamic countries until their problems are dealt with, we should boycott places like Saudi Arabia which is a blight on the face of the earth, we should NEVER ignore the victims of Islam, and we should criticise Islam as often as we do other faiths, and we should do all we can to stamp out the Muslim extremism that is present in our country.

However these politically correct do gooders are making that impossible by labelling any reasonable critic of Islam as racist, and so eventually the more the problems caused specifically by Islam get out of control in our society, terror attacks, grooming gangs etc. Then the more people are going to turn to genuine right wing extremists. Nick Griffin, not Tommy Robinson, and eventually its going to end in a blood bath.

Just hope I'm out of Europe by then.

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66 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun May 13, 2018 4:19 pm

@burrunjor wrote:However these politically correct do gooders are making that impossible by labelling any reasonable critic of Islam as racist

They seem to get themselves worked up over the people posting mean tweets about Islam rather than the horrific act of terrorism itself.

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67 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun May 13, 2018 7:55 pm

@Commander Maxil wrote:
@burrunjor wrote:However these politically correct do gooders are making that impossible by labelling any reasonable critic of Islam as racist

They seem to get themselves worked up over the people posting mean tweets about Islam rather than the horrific act of terrorism itself.

Look at this bit of self pity from that little shit Sadiq Khan.

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