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26 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:37 am

@burrunjor wrote:Sharia law has been changed in certain places but its original interpretation is violent and bigoted.

You mean like the constantly re-interpreted violent aspects of Christianity then?

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html

http://odintext.com/blog/textanalysisbible2of3/

The Bible is clearly more violent than the Quran. I suggested we round up all the Jesus freaks, tambourine smashers and old ladies at the Sunday church cake stall.

And let's not make any exclusions here. We'll do Islam as well. Anyone who prays to Mecca 5x a day, observes wudu - and maybe even that nice young family who own the chippie down the road - should all be shoved into a bunch a sweaty cells, fed 7p meals and made to square bash until they puke Mohammed/Jesus out of their systems.

After all, they're only going to take instruction from those silly books and start spreading their pernicious doctrine everywhere.




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27 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:53 pm

@Boofer wrote:
@burrunjor wrote:Sharia law has been changed in certain places but its original interpretation is violent and bigoted.

You mean like the constantly re-interpreted violent aspects of Christianity then?

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html

http://odintext.com/blog/textanalysisbible2of3/

The Bible is clearly more violent than the Quran. I suggested we round up all the Jesus freaks, tambourine smashers and old ladies at the Sunday church cake stall.

And let's not make any exclusions here. We'll do Islam as well. Anyone who prays to Mecca 5x a day, observes wudu - and maybe even that nice young family who own the chippie down the road - should all be shoved into a bunch a sweaty cells, fed 7p meals and made to square bash until they puke Mohammed/Jesus out of their systems.

After all, they're only going to take instruction from those silly books and start spreading their pernicious doctrine everywhere.




That study about the bible was debunked (with the guy who did it even later admitting it was flawed). Yes there are more violent passages technically in the new testament, but those are passages that describe violent incidents from a historical perspective. Indeed they often describe violent incidents against Christians, or Jesus himself such as his violent death.

In the Quran however Muhammed tells his followers to kill people.

Its like saying a Documentary about World War 2 is worse than Mein Kampf because hey it will technically be describing more violent incidents.

Popular Left Wing Theory That Bible Is More Violent Debunked


Violence in The Bible: Religion of Peace

As for the old testament, well I already said in my first response to Genkimonk that it was a disgusting book, however there are other factors that make it less dangerous than the Quran, such as the fact that it doesn't promise an afterlife, the fact that the Jewish religion has been amended to and changed unlike the Islamic one (which is why I want an Islamic reformation) and the fact that its a more loose religion overall.

And show me where I said that all Muslims are to be rounded up and killed?

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28 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:03 am

Surely capitalism is more violent than Islam. Turn your anger on that.

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29 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:50 am

90 people were murdered by terrorists in Kabul this week. Where is the minute's silence for them?
How many Muslims do Isis, al-Qaeda, the Taliban and others need to kill for us to realise that perhaps Islam isn’t the problem?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/kabul-isis-explosion-attack-no-one-minutes-scilence-a7767341.html?cmpid=facebook-post

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30 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:14 am

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90 people were murdered by terrorists in Kabul this week. Where is the minute's silence for them?
How many Muslims do Isis, al-Qaeda, the Taliban and others need to kill for us to realise that perhaps Islam isn’t the problem?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/kabul-isis-explosion-attack-no-one-minutes-scilence-a7767341.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Well of course Muslims are victims of Islam. Muhammed said that all hypocrites, IE Muslims who do things like befriend non believers are to be killed!

Muslims are the victims of Islam the same way that Germans were the victims of the Nazis.

I have often said that Muslim women, and LGBT Muslims who are cursed to live in Islamic countries are the most unfortunate people on earth.

Like this poor soul





Again though this does not prove that Islam is not the problem. This doesn't discount the violent passages in the Quran, the homophobic passages, the psychotic levels of misogyny, the racism against Jews and black people etc.

I just don't get what it is about Islam that makes people jump through such hoops to defend it?

Worse still the very people it victimises stand up for it! Look at this board.

We have Penny, a lesbian who is married to a black person. Now she said she wanted me banned from this forum for my "Islamophobia". She might have been joking to an extent, but it was clear from the joke that she thought my views on Islam were abhorrent.

Meanwhile more than half of the Muslim population in the United Kingdom wants to criminalise her way of life!

Here a source from the Guardian of all papers that says this.

50 percent of British Muslims Think Homosexuality Should Be Illegal

Here is the person who actually coined the term Islamophobi saying that he regrets it and that Muslims have NOT integrated into our society like other groups.

Trevor Phillips is Finally Discovering the Pitfalls of Islam

Trevor Phillips: Political Correctness Ushering In A Catastrophe

If this country ever becomes an Islamic country then Penny is the most fucked person on this board ironically.

Hey Penny here's what Islam thinks about women.



Here's what Islam thinks about LGBT folk.



Here's what Islam thinks about black people.



Penny's wife, a lesbian, black woman is Islam's idea of hell (literally its image of Satan is a black guy!)

Now again does this mean that all Muslims are evil? No, but does it mean that Islam is evil? Yes! Does it mean that more people raised on genuine Islamic beliefs in this country is a very, very, very bad thing? Absolutely! Does it mean we need to limit Islam's influence in the west as much as possible? Absolutely! Does it mean that the religion needs to change to fit in with western values? YES!

However apparently saying that is somehow racist?

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31 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:39 am

There is no Penny.

Only Zuul.

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32 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:44 am

Hello, Zuul. Do you like One Direction? I think they are pretty shit, myself. But I respect your right as an individual to like shitty music. Harry Styles can do one, though! Fancy a Pepsi Max?

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33 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 am

Not a One Direction fan, but definitely a Pepsi Max fan. Let's hit the town (with an improvised explosive device)!

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34 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:57 am

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/heroic-muslim-provided-sanctuary-64-christians-hunted-islamic-militants-philippines-111943060.html

Muslim man provides sanctuary for 64 Christians hunted by Isis gunmen

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35 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Rawkuss wrote:https://uk.yahoo.com/news/heroic-muslim-provided-sanctuary-64-christians-hunted-islamic-militants-philippines-111943060.html

Muslim man provides sanctuary for 64 Christians hunted by Isis gunmen

What does this prove? Did I say there were no nice individual Muslims? No I said the ideology of Islam is twisted and inspires people to do heinous things and it does!

Tell me who did this brave man shelter the Christians from? What ideology did the people persecuting the Christians follow?

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36 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:55 pm

Gotta love how he goes on about the scientific method, then makes a sweeping generalisation on "the Left".

Fact is, the left defend muslims because we acknoweldge that it is only a tiny fraction causing the trouble. We understand that most do want peace, We know many moved to the west to help muster a more liberal interpratation of Islam.

It's truely ironic that the right complain about the left supporting Islamic terrorism, when in fact it is normally people on the right involved with big buisness that continue to sell arms to these groups and to crop up Saudia Arabia where the bulk of terrorist ideology comes from.

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37 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:20 pm

@Genkimonk wrote:It's truely ironic that the right complain about the left supporting Islamic terrorism, when in fact it is normally people on the right involved with big buisness that continue to sell arms to these groups and to crop up Saudia Arabia where the bulk of terrorist ideology comes from.

Normally, yes, but not exclusively:

"The Obama administration has offered to sell $115bn worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia over its eight years in office, more than any previous US administration, according to a new report."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/obama-administration-offered-115-billion-weapons-saudi-arabia-report

If they didn't sell them to the Saudis then the Saudis would got to Russia who would then profit over people being killed including our citizens if the arms are used against us. It's a dirty situation and we are all hypocrites on this one. Why lose money and feed the Russian economy, rock and a hard place.

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38 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:15 am

@Genkimonk wrote:Gotta love how he goes on about the scientific method, then makes a sweeping generalisation on "the Left".

Fact is, the left defend muslims because we acknoweldge that it is only a tiny fraction causing the trouble. We understand that most do want peace, We know many moved to the west to help muster a more liberal interpratation of Islam.

It's truely ironic that the right complain about the left supporting Islamic terrorism, when in fact it is normally people on the right involved with big buisness that continue to sell arms to these groups and to crop up Saudia Arabia where the bulk of terrorist ideology comes from.

I don't get why you are we-ing yourself with the left? Didn't you say you'd vote Tory in the 2015 election?

I myself would rather ram a rail road spike through my balls than ever vote Tory. I've only ever voted for the SNP, a left leaning party, and I am a socialist so I am certainly not on the right.

And I agree the west has fucked things up from a practical point of view in the middle east and I have opposed things like the Iraq war, the Libyan crisis for my whole life, but again that doesn't mean that Islam isn't still a problem.

Having said that I do find the poser left, the SJW's, the Rik's from the Young Ones style socialists, the career feminists alliance with Islam baffling at first glance.

Islam is THE most conservative religion. Its anti LGBT, its anti women, its anti semitic, it says that white men are the master race basically, yet all of these "I identify as 67 different genders, I want to smash the patriarchy, I am sick of white male privilege" people actually defend it and make it immune to criticism.

Of course again its just because Muslims are mostly brown and so in these people's minds they have to be the victims of the evil white man. Soft bigotry of low expectations in action.

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39 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:55 am

I don't get why you are we-ing yourself with the left? Didn't you say you'd vote Tory in the 2015 election?

I have never voted Tory. I have told you and others on this forum multiple times that I was pressured to leave the UK as a direct consequence of the Tories. IDS stirred up such hatred on the genuine sick and disabled that I was attacked in broad daylight in Bradford with my white cane, simply because someone had seen me without it before (when ironically, I could see). My neighbour informed social services that I was not using it when I became so scared that it made me a target. I was investigated for benefit fraud and found innocent at a single glance of my extensive surgery history and eye scans.

I was forced to survive on canned soup by the Job office after they got me a job as a fucking carer (me, a carer who at the time could barely see) which I left after I was attacked in the workplace and resigned because I felt I did not feel safe.

On top of all this, I won funding to do my PhD, and the week I was due to sign it, they upped the fees to 9K making it impossible to take up the offer. They fucking ruined my life in the UK, so I did whatever I could and left.

So don`t you dare say I voted Tory.

The only time I even remotely supported them was when Labour forced private patients to use private organ donation stocks, rather than NHS, which left me in agony for an extra 3 months while I waited for a cornea transplant, which was scheduled shortly after the law was passed.

I hate them more than you can possibly imagine.

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40 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:48 pm

@Genkimonk wrote:
I don't get why you are we-ing yourself with the left? Didn't you say you'd vote Tory in the 2015 election?

I have never voted Tory. I have told you and others on this forum multiple times that I was pressured to leave the UK as a direct consequence of the Tories. IDS stirred up such hatred on the genuine sick and disabled that I was attacked in broad daylight in Bradford with my white cane, simply because someone had seen me without it before (when ironically, I could see). My neighbour informed social services that I was not using it when I became so scared that it made me a target. I was investigated for benefit fraud and found innocent at a single glance of my extensive surgery history and eye scans.

I was forced to survive on canned soup by the Job office after they got me a job as a fucking carer (me, a carer who at the time could barely see) which I left after I was attacked in the workplace and resigned because I felt I did not feel safe.

On top of all this, I won funding to do my PhD, and the week I was due to sign it, they upped the fees to 9K making it impossible to take up the offer. They fucking ruined my life in the UK, so I did whatever I could and left.

So don`t you dare say I voted Tory.

The only time I even remotely supported them was when Labour forced private patients to use private organ donation stocks, rather than NHS, which left me in agony for an extra 3 months while I waited for a cornea transplant, which was scheduled shortly after the law was passed.

I hate them more than you can possibly imagine.

Ah okay sorry I must have got you mixed up with someone else.

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41 Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Again on Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:18 pm

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/state-sponsored-assassination/

Who’s getting killed today?

Few people are aware that every week the White House observes “Terror Tuesday”, where the US President personally approves people for death without any legal process at all. Indeed, if one trait has marked the so-called War on Terror, it is the unthinking abnegation of various long-settled human rights rules – among them, the right to due process and a fair trial – by politicians who seem immune to the lessons of history. Liberty is initially eroded at the margins, but in recent years long-developed principles have been washed away in the neap tide of populism.


But it is Terror Tuesday that has been my particular concern lately, with the suggestion that we are returning to the era of the Borgias, taking to assassination as a solution to our problems. It is especially troubling that this policy was adopted in 2010 by Barack Obama, the constitutional law professor turned President. He said he opposed rendition, and wished to close Guantánamo Bay, yet rather than kidnap people and hold them without trial, he chose to execute them without any legal process at all.

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